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| Session Start: Thu Jun 07 09:31:24 2007Session Ident: #futurestrades |
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<eminitrader> | Long ES @ 1528 |
<NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 835.90 -> large size | 09:33 |
<eminitrader> | Exited 1/3 ES Long @ 1529 --> + 1 | 09:34 |
<intowin> | N ru switching to U today? | 09:35 |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 837.30 --> - 1.4 |
| Not just yet... |
| Around 10am est I will. | 09:36 |
<intowin> | k thanks |
<eminitrader> | Long ES @ 1528 -> Add |
* subq | no MP charts today because of rollover | 09:40 |
<szubaark> | Buys ES @ 1513.50 «« paper »» | 09:41 |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 837.20 -> large size |
| Long ER2 @ 836.30 -> Add | 09:43 |
<RussellDaytrade> | es leading mkt up here | 09:44 |
<eminitrader> | Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 1530.50 --> + 2.5 |
<szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 1516 --> + 2.5 «« paper »» | 09:45 |
<eminitrader> | Exited 1/3 ES Long @ 1532 --> + 4 |
<intowin> | nice start |
<eminitrader> | holding 2 |
<NihabaAshi> | Still no fill :( | 09:47 |
| Exited 1/2 ER2 Long @ 838.20 --> + 1.9 | 09:48 |
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| Exited Remainder ER2 Long @ 838.00 --> + 0.8 | 09:49 |
| I tried something new for contract rollover day...didn't go as planned. |
| I'm now switching to the new contract. |
| I thought for sure I'll get a 839.00 exit | 09:50 |
| I'm not going to do another trade until I see how the new contract reacts to its first regular session key economic report via the 10am Wholesale Trade report. | 09:55 |
| Hopefully the volatility smooths a little and gets rid of the jerky prices that's jumping over levels sometimes by a few ticks. | 09:56 |
<ItalianSharp> | smart thing to do niha...i haven't even touched my platform yet today because i've been spending time adjusting all S/R areas in my charts... | 09:58 |
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<eminitrader> | be back |
<ItalianSharp> | i can't believe we are in 2007 and futures contracts still rollover...millionaires can take holidays on space shuttles and visit the moon and us traders still rolling over contracts every 3months...doesnt make sense | 09:59 |
<RussellDaytrade> | anyone else see that 5700 lot on the er? | 10:01 |
<ItalianSharp> | which side RD? | 10:02 |
<PapaJon> | huh.. no way rd.. thats humungus |
| for er |
| had to be a fat finger |
<RussellDaytrade> | 8:01:01, on the sell side, I think. | 10:03 |
<eminitrader> | Exited ES Long @ 1532 --> + 4 | 10:04 |
| Reverse and Enter Short ES @ 1532 |
| nice juicy short signal | 10:06 |
| Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1530 --> + 2 |
<PapaJon> | nice et .. :) | 10:07 |
<base> | nice one |
<eminitrader> | thx pj |
| thx base |
<intowin> | I was just thinking a red candle is due but missed the move. You da man et |
<eminitrader> | Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1528 --> + 4 | 10:08 |
<base> | What a move. |
<eminitrader> | holding 2 |
<jperl> | that down push just got my butt out of pickle | 10:09 |
<RussellDaytrade> | a graceful exit |
<NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 845.40 -> small size | 10:10 |
<eminitrader> | that was a striong sell there base- will see further downmove with new lows - high probability |
<jperl> | There's a 10:30 EIA Natural Gas Report coming up | 10:13 |
<NihabaAshi> | Yep |
| Some correlation with Oil is starting to show up... | 10:14 |
| I'm looking for a lucky exit now. |
<base> | I am holding long since 16:10:02 / 845.40, already did +2 on the recent uptrend. |
<NihabaAshi> | punks :( | 10:15 |
| Fills today are hard fought and market orders are getting hung out to dry today so far. |
<base> | Well, -0.5 | 10:16 |
<NihabaAshi> | A little more downwards and I'll have my lucky exit. |
| Covered all ER2 Short @ 844.50 --> + 0.9 | 10:17 |
| Couldn't get that 844.00 price area...grabbed what I could get :( | 10:18 |
<base> | I am not so familiar with the price actions seeing last 5-6 days in a row. | 10:19 |
<eminitrader> | Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1527 --> + 5 | 10:20 |
| holding 1 |
<base> | eminitrader: I am sure you have some insider information we have not. :) |
<intowin> | keep doing that and you can quit your day job E : ) | 10:21 |
<eminitrader> | this is my day job :) |
<szubaark> | LOL |
<Brutus> | Long ER2 @ 1527.25 «« paper »» |
<eminitrader> | no base its just that my read of the flow worked out well | 10:22 |
| looks like all stars and planets were in perfect alignment :) |
<jperl> | ER2 peak volume now @ 844.50 |
<Brutus> | 1pt stop looking for new highs | 10:23 |
<jperl> | VWAP @ 845.46 |
<RussellDaytrade> | two more huge orders crossed, on hte old erc ontract, both 3000 lots, I think similar sized orders also crossed on the new er about the same time...horse race. |
<PapaJon> | er2 volume on u just past m | 10:24 |
<RussellDaytrade> | neck-n-neck |
<jperl> | How about that 1 hour |
<PapaJon> | rd.. are you lookin at t&s or a dom? | 10:25 |
<base> | eminitrader: What kind of chart are you reading? What timeframe? |
<RussellDaytrade> | right on the button EM. :) |
<eminitrader> | thx rd | 10:26 |
| bar chart primary chart is 3 min |
<RussellDaytrade> | u r most welcome, thank you, I learned something this am, as usual, that hard way..learned, all the same. | 10:27 |
<base> | Thanks, I usually use 1h/5m for trend reading and 1m for executions. | 10:28 |
<RussellDaytrade> | er looks up |
<eminitrader> | thats making the most of a losing trade RD... |
| i read the flow from the 3 min and its my main chart for set-ups..but i watch the 1,5,15,30,60 only for confirmations and targets | 10:30 |
<RussellDaytrade> | do the mkts have one more downside shakeout left in them this am, or is that about it? I am thinking right here we are on the cusp of either or. | 10:32 |
<eminitrader> | looks like we can see a bounce of these lows here ...the ES |
| retest failure this time | 10:33 |
| and looks oversold |
<Brutus> | Exited 1/4 ER2 Long @ 1530.25 --> + 3 «« paper »» | 10:35 |
<eminitrader> | nice B |
<Brutus> | thx e | 10:36 |
<szubaark> | good exit B | 10:39 |
<Brutus> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 1526.25 --> - 1 «« paper »» | 10:40 |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 842.60 -> small size |
| intuition trade | 10:41 |
<eminitrader> | broke the lows this time |
<NihabaAshi> | Too jumpy for me now. | 10:43 |
<Brutus> | Long ER2 @ 842.5 «« paper »» |
| Exited ER2 Long @ 843.5 --> + 1 «« paper »» | 10:45 |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 843.70 --> + 1.1 | 10:48 |
<RussellDaytrade> | looking good, lower price, with sell pressures abating, invariably, it always feels like the worst palce to get long | 10:49 |
| thats a short term outlook, bigger picture, I think the mkts are due for downside of a more meaningful nature | 10:50 |
<Brutus> | Long ER2 @ 842.8 «« paper »» | 10:52 |
| er es 5min hammers | 10:54 |
| Exited ER2 Long @ 843.8 --> + 1 «« paper »» | 10:58 |
| Long ER2 @ 842.8 «« paper »» | 11:03 |
| exit stop set ER2 @ 842.2 «« paper »» | 11:04 |
<jperl> | Well, I made lunch money this morning..... | 11:05 |
| http://charts.dacharts.com/2007-06-07/JP ERL_0142.png |
| so I think I will take an early lunch |
<Brutus> | Exited ER2 Long @ 842.2 --> - 0.6 «« paper »» | 11:06 |
<eminitrader> | Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1522 --> + 10 | 11:09 |
| done for the day ...see u all tomorow |
<RussellDaytrade> | well done |
<eminitrader> | thx RD |
<Brutus> | ex e didnt know held that short |
<ItalianSharp> | wow emini, very well done...it's been a while since your last tenner | 11:10 |
<eminitrader> | 10:10:22] <eminitrader> that was a striong sell there base- will see further downmove with new lows - high probability | 11:11 |
| yeah thx IS |
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<RussellDaytrade> | 7300 lot sell order just now in the er june...I htink that guy is a little late | 12:13 |
| I think there is a good possibility the mkts close positive | 12:21 |
<NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 838.70 -> small size | 12:44 |
| Covered all ER2 Short @ 838.50 --> + 0.2 | 12:45 |
| Had I not hesitated (got greedy), I could have got out at 838.30 instead of getting greedy to try to get 838.00 | 12:46 |
<intowin> | Long Es 1517.25 tight stop |
<NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 838.00 -> small size | 12:47 |
<intowin> | out at 1516.25 -1 | 12:50 |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 836.50 --> + 1.5 |
| I've exceeded my profit goals for the day. | 12:51 |
| On that note is time for lunch and when I return I will trade via 1 contract only. |
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<Brutus> | Long ES @ 1510.5 «« paper »» | 13:40 |
| paper on these counter trend | 13:41 |
<intowin> | oh the humanity |
| lol | 13:42 |
<Brutus> | Exited ES Long @ 1509.25 --> - 1.25 «« paper »» |
| Long ES @ 1510.75 «« paper »» | 13:48 |
<eminitrader> | rewind a few yrs and it is very much me...tryibg to get a thrill on catching a falling knife :) | 13:50 |
| not saying anything here B...just nostalgia |
<Brutus> | yes thats why its just paper e | 13:51 |
| I have learnt that lesson |
<eminitrader> | u dont want to make it a habit....is it worth even on paper ? |
<Brutus> | But bond yeilds did start droping | 13:52 |
| so saw a potential fuel for a short covering rally |
<eminitrader> | k....no arguements here ...i guess to each his own |
<intowin> | E you scouting any pm trades? | 13:53 |
<eminitrader> | if any good set-ups ...but no more than 2 lot |
<intowin> | My puter went down a few times today. If I didnt say it VERY nice job this morning | 13:54 |
<eminitrader> | large lot only if there is a change in trend |
| oh thx bud |
<intowin> | calling that revers early on was outstandin |
<eminitrader> | see there was nothing magical abt it...nice early upmove to a fib retrace level that i trade confirmed by price action...high probability set-up...works 90% of the time | 13:56 |
| looks like a good entry B :)) |
<Brutus> | Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 1512.75 --> + 2 «« paper »» | 13:58 |
<ItalianSharp> | emini, was that fib retracement the 38% one? | 14:02 |
<Brutus> | Oh just tell the whole world IS lol :) | 14:03 |
<eminitrader> | it was a 50% globex high to low |
<RussellDaytrade> | amazing there was still left in the es after your tenner! |
| 12 points of |
| today, that is, not all days are like this, of course | 14:04 |
<eminitrader> | true RD...just didn't want to be greedy :)...that apart i never thoght it the move wld be so strong | 14:05 |
<Brutus> | I guess e the confluence of those levels just added to the short potential |
<eminitrader> | exactly B ...that cascading effect provided the fuel |
<Brutus> | Exited all ES Long @ 1510.75 --> 0 «« paper »» | 14:13 |
| Long ES @ 1509.75 «« paper »» | 14:18 |
| Exited all ES Long @ 1509.5 --> - 0.25 «« paper »» | 14:21 |
<jperl> | market is giving me a headache (literally) so will stop for today... | 14:23 |
| P/L here.... |
| http://charts.dacharts.com/2007-06-07/JP ERL_0143.png | 14:24 |
<Brutus> | Long ES @ 1511 «« paper »» |
<jperl> | some small profit for the day.... |
<Brutus> | Exited all ES Long @ 1509.5 --> - 1.5 «« paper »» | 14:25 |
| looks light to the upside | 14:26 |
<RussellDaytrade> | EM, care to lead us off with a celebratory long, to help usher in a change of trend? |
<Littman> | yes is true |
<RussellDaytrade> | :) |
| recognizing, of course, that 1)it's still too early, and 2) it's not your style. | 14:27 |
<Brutus> | Long ES @ 1510.25 «« paper »» | 14:34 |
<eminitrader> | not yet rd ... | 14:35 |
<Brutus> | Exited all ES Long @ 1510.75 --> + 0.5 «« paper »» |
<Littman> | way not emini? | 14:36 |
<eminitrader> | no reason to go long ...as far as i'm concerned trend still bearissh |
<RussellDaytrade> | ooh, nice candle there just now on er | 14:37 |
<Brutus> | Long ES @ 1510.25 «« paper »» |
<RussellDaytrade> | 1 minute candle...ah, got stopped in its tracks, first glimmer | 14:38 |
<eminitrader> | on that note...the mrkt can only move so much with a pullbackto release some pressure ...but i dont want to be guessing from where the pullback starts ... |
| thats the reason no long yet L...hope it helps |
<RussellDaytrade> | np, I underastand, :)...I have have guessed 3 times so far today, what's one more? :) | 14:39 |
<Brutus> | Exited all ES Long @ 1511 --> + 0.75 «« paper »» | 14:41 |
<RussellDaytrade> | I'm going to be green before this day is over | 14:44 |
| green, left 1 as a runner | 14:46 |
| if this gets traction, I got 832.5, (still using the june for numbers, add 7.5 for the sept | 14:47 |
<Littman> | me be is time to go short on ES | 14:50 |
<eminitrader> | not yet | 14:51 |
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| maybe wrong but if it goes down now may bounce up again 1511-50-1513 | 14:52 |
<Littman> | what pattern hoping to go short? | 14:55 |
<RussellDaytrade> | I think if the mkt was gonna fall apart below the lows and extend, it woulda done so by now, and have been already on it way | 14:56 |
<eminitrader> | 1518 with 4 tick stop |
| also can go long in the area listed above - maybe 2-4 pts there | 14:57 |
<Littman> | thanks emini. | 15:00 |
<eminitrader> | urw |
<RussellDaytrade> | ma lines should hold 'em in here | 15:02 |
| those !@#$%^&* bears pst me off today, they're as bad as bulls in a china shop | 15:04 |
<eminitrader> | looks like a sell here Es ...sbut need stop 1618.50 |
| oops 1518.50 |
| Shorts ES @ 1515.75 | 15:06 |
| 2 only |
| Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1513.75 --> + 2 | 15:07 |
| exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1515.75 | 15:08 |
<werner> | nice emini, gn all |
<eminitrader> | Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1515.75 --> 0 | 15:09 |
| Shorts ES @ 1515.75 | 15:10 |
<Brutus> | maybe up till 1530 then down e | 15:11 |
<RussellDaytrade> | alright, never say die |
<eminitrader> | trend still down... |
<RussellDaytrade> | :) |
<Brutus> | 1530 time | 15:12 |
<RussellDaytrade> | the sept is lagging the june in here | 15:15 |
<eminitrader> | Shorts ES @ 1518.25 -> Add |
<RussellDaytrade> | sold it, flat, within .5 of my targets | 15:16 |
<eminitrader> | Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1515.75 --> + 2.5 | 15:19 |
| thats a b/e on 1 lot |
| exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1518.25 | 15:21 |
<RussellDaytrade> | I am done trading for today, trading less efficiently than I like | 15:23 |
| about time for another gaff up in here |
| to extend into the full targets | 15:24 |
<eminitrader> | thats the high.. ES prolly out of gas |
<RussellDaytrade> | yes, looks like it, ma lines right under, so may hold | 15:25 |
<Littman> | test with biodiesel! | 15:26 |
<RussellDaytrade> | no new lows this afternoon, a small positive for tomorrow | 15:28 |
<eminitrader> | L did u tahe the sell @ the 1518 area | 15:29 |
<intowin> | I got the sell at 838.70 for er thanks to your es call E | 15:30 |
<eminitrader> | had 4.5 pts ...was looking for 5 ..looks like i missed it |
<intowin> | overall day still feels dreery | 15:31 |
<eminitrader> | just be careful intowin - just dont go blindly with my calls...make ur assumptions too before placing a trde |
<intowin> | Oh I do man. I have stops in place | 15:32 |
| on every play |
<eminitrader> | k as long as u r aware of that |
| good trade by the way :)) |
<intowin> | We think a lot alike however. Your area to short was the same as mine. You just helped confirm it | 15:33 |
<RussellDaytrade> | in case anyone besides little ole me was paying any attention, (apparently not), sept traded to 839.9, within 1 tick of my target...832.5 plus 7.5, not too bad, if I say so myself. |
<eminitrader> | good for u RD ...did u trade that | 15:36 |
<RussellDaytrade> | indeed I did, was long from earlier, before fianl lows | 15:37 |
<eminitrader> | :)) |
| I find it more difficult to make money on the long side on days loke this...good one | 15:38 |
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<eminitrader> | got my 5 ..will hold for some more and see how it turns out | 15:41 |
| stop moved to 5 pts @ 1513.25 |
<intowin> | covered 835.80 + 3 all out | 15:42 |
<eminitrader> | i will prolly get out here too |
<intowin> | Very good day guys... Cya in the morn |
<eminitrader> | Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1512.25 --> + 3.5 | 15:43 |
| done for the day ..see u all tomorow | 15:45 |
<RussellDaytrade> | they're still gunning for the es, amazing, guess them bears got unionized after all | 15:56 |
| this is going to start getting interesting tomorrow | 16:00 |
* DisconnectedSession | Close: Thu Jun 07 17:31:24 2007 | 17:31 |
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