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| Session Start: Tue Jun 03 09:28:44 2008Session Ident: #FuturesTrades |
| * Now | talking in #FuturesTrades | 09:28 |
| <@X> | [NihabaAshi] #FuturesTrades info @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTradesChatRoom.htm and trade log archives @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/RecentTrades.htm |
| <tzar> | gm NihabaAshi | 09:29 |
| <PapaJon> | gm all |
| <futurible> | gm all |
| <drt> | gm all |
| <rickf> | dumb question, what exactly does 'granting voice' do to/for us? |
| <@NihabaAshi> | No benefit for you :) | 09:31 |
| <+rickf> | lol |
| <@NihabaAshi> | It tells me whom are lurking and whom are not lurking. |
| <+rickf> | gotcha thx |
| <@NihabaAshi> | Then if I have a bad trading day or wake up in a bad mood... |
| I'll then pick a fight with someone that's lurking :) | 09:32 |
| <+tzar> | lol |
| <lumenPharmer> | lol :) |
| <nqcruiser> | Short Nido |
| <+tzar> | meltdown | 09:34 |
| <@NihabaAshi> | What's
up with Oil ang Gold lately...they do these dramatic volatility speaks
when they open for trading at 0930am est in reference to index and ETFs |
| Signs that there's some big time speculating going on. | 09:35 |
| <+rickf> | or folks lightening their pos preparing for the cftc rules/investigations perhaps |
| the specs and long-only funds, that is | 09:36 |
| <Splurge> | gm | 09:37 |
| <szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1388 «« paper »» |
| <+rickf> | short es 1387 paper | 09:40 |
| actually 87.25 |
| * Spartan_Away | is now known as Spartan | 09:43 |
| <+nqcruiser> | any1 find the levels here useful? | 09:45 |
| http://www.ioamt.com/graphs/00781_z.png |
| <+rickf> | havent done much work with market profiles, sorry | 09:47 |
| <Spartan> | Long ER2 @ 741.8 «« paper »» | 09:48 |
| <+lumenPharmer> | had 742 short 2 times, stop out both b/e | 09:49 |
| <+Spartan> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 741.8 --> 0 «« paper »» |
| <+szubaark> | exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1388 «« paper »» | 09:52 |
| <+rickf> | stop moved to 1387 b/e +1 tick |
| <+Spartan> | Long ER2 @ 742 «« paper »» | 09:53 |
| <+rickf> | great minds think alike, eh szu? :) |
| <+szubaark> | yeah sure :) |
| 10am factory Orders coming up | 09:54 |
| Covered all Short ES at 1386 --> + 2 «« paper »» | 09:55 |
| <werner> | gm all |
| <+rickf> | hi werner | 09:56 |
| <+szubaark> | hi werner |
| <+tzar> | gm werner |
| <+rickf> | out at 87 +,25 paper |
| <+werner> | yo rickf,szu,tzar |
| <@NihabaAshi> | Today we have that same low volatility like yesterday... | 09:57 |
| Just much worst today in comparison. |
| <+rickf> | i dunno, the es was better behaved thus far than yesterday |
| <@X> | #FuturesTrades Info ->
No gurus, no head traders. Members use this room to document (trade
journal) their trades and thoughts from one trade to the next trade
because it provides critical information they can't get from broker
statements nor statistics. Also, mimicking the trades by others is not
recommended without their permission. More info at
www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTradesChat Room.htm |
| <+rickf> | yesterday the es was really weird until 10, 1010 | 09:58 |
| <+Spartan> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 743.2 --> + 1.2 «« paper »» | 09:59 |
| that would have been nice | 10:00 |
| <+rickf> | :( | 10:01 |
| <+szubaark> | Volatility spike due to the 10am Report |
| <+tzar> | will there be a retrace? |
| guess not as big as i wanted | 10:04 |
| <Bambam-77> | pos trgt 1395.75 | 10:05 |
| <BigDawg291> | you long bamabm? | 10:06 |
| <+Bambam-77> | lower gap fill area from yesterday |
| <+BigDawg291> | rick you done any fx trades lately? | 10:07 |
| * subq | -=market profile charts for today=- http://www.charthub.com/chart/search/mpc hart |
| <+BigDawg291> | or nayone? |
| <+rickf> | nop |
| sorry :( |
| <+BigDawg291> | thats alright just wondering | 10:08 |
| <+Spartan> | was long, got out before report, been bit too many times lately on reports |
| <+rickf> | spartan - prolly a good idea, i'm the same way |
| fed days excluded of course |
| <+Spartan> | seems like murphys law strikes when I hold over reports | 10:09 |
| <+rickf> | only report i feel somewhat comfy trading is FOMC, actually | 10:10 |
| <@NihabaAshi> | weak support area ER2 |
| <+rickf> | usualyl big enough moves and waves to help you fix yourself if you get in a bad place |
| <+Spartan> | yeah, great money making opportunity their, I still need some work on that one |
| <+rickf> | (but not always) |
| <+Spartan> | there, I meant |
| <+rickf> | if anyone's interested you can now trade options on the gold ETF (GLD) as of today | 10:13 |
| <+Spartan> | Long ER2 @ 744.5 «« paper »» | 10:15 |
| <+rickf> | there's your retrace tsar | 10:16 |
| <+tzar> | ;) |
| too late and slow |
| id prefer a 1 min bar straight down :) | 10:17 |
| <@NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 744.00 -> medium size |
| <+Spartan> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 743.5 --> - 1 «« paper »» |
| <dragon310> | long er 743.80 | 10:18 |
| <+rickf> | remember the old saying - "trade the market you have, not the one you want" :) |
| was a HARD lesson for me to learn |
| <+nqcruiser> | which product should I subscribe on esignal to get DAX, CAC40 and Eurostoxx | 10:19 |
| <+Spartan> | Long ER2 @ 743.7 -> small size «« paper »» | 10:21 |
| <+rickf> | DTN IQ might work for you | 10:22 |
| tho i think most data providers offer that stuff? |
| <@NihabaAshi> | I think eSignal has something called the "European Exchange" that you need to subscribe to to get DAX and boys |
| <+rickf> | i get those feeds thru open-ecry as part of my brokerage data that comes w/my account |
| <+dragon310> | exit long at 743.30 -> -.05 | 10:23 |
| <+szubaark> | Buys ES @ 1389.75 «« paper »» | 10:25 |
| <@NihabaAshi> | Covered ER2 Short @ 743.70 --> + 0.3 | 10:26 |
| <+szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 1388.75 --> - 1 «« paper »» | 10:28 |
| Shorts ES @ 1388.75 «« paper »» |
| exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1388.75 «« paper »» | 10:30 |
| <+Spartan> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 743.1 --> - 0.6 «« paper »» |
| <ItalianSharp> | damn, YM is really bearish today | 10:31 |
| <+ItalianSharp> | back to back v-shaped turns...down, up, down |
| <+szubaark> | yup, no direction as usual | 10:32 |
| <+rickf> | short es 1399 paper |
| <Andy> | Long ES @ 1387.75 «« paper »» |
| <+rickf> | oops 1389 |
| <+szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1388.75 --> 0 «« paper »» | 10:34 |
| <+rickf> | exit es 1388 +1 paper |
| <+szubaark> | Buys ES @ 1388.50 «« paper »» | 10:35 |
| <+dragon310> | long ym 12499 |
| <+Andy> | Exited all ES Long @ 1388.5 --> + 0.75 «« paper »» | 10:36 |
| <+Spartan> | Long ER2 @ 744 -> small size «« paper »» | 10:42 |
| <+szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 1388.50 --> 0 «« paper »» | 10:44 |
| <+Spartan> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 742.9 --> - 1.1 «« paper »» | 10:45 |
| <+szubaark> | Buys ES @ 1387.75 «« paper »» | 10:50 |
| <+Spartan> | Long ER2 @ 743 «« paper »» | 10:51 |
| <+szubaark> | weak support level |
| <@NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 744.00 -> small size | 10:59 |
| <+szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 1390.50 --> + 2.75 «« paper »» |
| <+Spartan> | nice trade szu | 11:00 |
| <+rickf> | yup |
| <+szubaark> | thanks |
| <+Spartan> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 744 --> + 1 «« paper »» | 11:03 |
| <@NihabaAshi> | Exited ER2 Long @ 744.10 --> + 0.1 |
| <+Spartan> | Long ER2 @ 743.6 -> small size «« paper »» | 11:05 |
| <+rickf> | long es 1390.75 paper | 11:07 |
| exit 90.25 -.5 paper | 11:08 |
| <+Andy> | Long ES @ 1389.25 «« paper »» | 11:11 |
| Exited 2/3 ES Long @ 1389.75 --> + 0.5 «« paper »» | 11:12 |
| Exited Remainder ES Long @ 1390 --> + 0.75 «« paper »» | 11:13 |
| <+Spartan> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 744.5 --> + 0.9 «« paper »» | 11:19 |
| * Spartan | is now known as Spartan_Away |
| * codehead_afk | is now known as codehead | 11:39 |
| <+Andy> | Long ES @ 1390.25 «« paper »» | 11:40 |
| Exited 3/4 ES Long @ 1391 --> + 0.75 «« paper »» |
| Exited Remainder ES Long @ 1391.25 --> + 1 «« paper »» | 11:44 |
| <@NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 744.70 -> small size |
| intuition only |
| sneaky price action |
| geeesh...volatility just got worst. | 11:46 |
| Didn't think it could get worst |
| Now it pops :) | 11:47 |
| volatility spike |
| :( | 11:48 |
| volatility spike back down :( | 11:51 |
| Lookin gfor a Houdini Escape |
| Exited ER2 Long @ 744.80 --> + 0.1 | 11:52 |
| Long ER2 @ 745.30 -> small size | 11:54 |
| intuition | 11:55 |
| Keeping this one at 1 contract due to my current profit level (low). |
| I want to take a lunch break but have a strong feeling as soon as I walk away from the computer... | 11:58 |
| Volatility is going to show up and produce a good directional price movement. |
| <@X> | #FuturesTrades Info ->
No gurus, no head traders. Members use this room to document (trade
journal) their trades and thoughts from one trade to the next trade
because it provides critical information they can't get from broker
statements nor statistics. Also, mimicking the trades by others is not
recommended without their permission. More info at
www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTradesChat Room.htm | 12:00 |
| * Flex | is now known as Flex_away | 12:01 |
| <+tzar> | im back |
| <+Andy> | Shorts ES @ 1392.5 «« paper »» | 12:02 |
| Covered all ES Short @ 1393.5 --> - 1 «« paper »» |
| Shorts ES @ 1392.5 «« paper »» | 12:03 |
| :( |
| Covered all ES Short @ 1392 --> + 0.5 «« paper »» | 12:05 |
| <@NihabaAshi> | Anybody watched the EuroFX drop today earlier this morning ??? | 12:08 |
| <+rickf> | nope - haven't looked at fx this week | 12:09 |
| <+dragon310> | i heard due to ben speaking about how he is soooo worry about the dollar falling | 12:11 |
| <@NihabaAshi> | Exited ER2 Long @ 744.40 --> - 0.9 | 12:12 |
| increasing volatility | 12:13 |
| <+Andy> | NQ dragging ES down |
| <startrader> | 2nd day in row nq does not have the bang for the buck that es has. | 12:15 |
| <@NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 745.00 -> small size | 12:16 |
| 2 only |
| 1 point range :( | 12:19 |
| Exited ER2 Long @ 744.40 --> - 0.6 | 12:21 |
| Shorts ER2 @ 744.40 -> medium size | 12:22 |
| <+rickf> | heading
out to run errands before the next 3 days of rain start. back later --
enjoy the volatility that is bound to occur in my absence :) | 12:23 |
| <+Andy> | Shorts NQ @ 1390.75 «« paper »» |
| Shorts NQ @ 1391 -> Add «« paper »» |
| that's ES | 12:24 |
| <@NihabaAshi> | I got that hearache sneaking up on me due to an empty stomach...looking to dump this even if its a small profit | 12:25 |
| <+Andy> | Covered 1/2 NQ Short @ 1390 --> + 1 «« paper »» |
| <KN-ES> | nice Andy | 12:26 |
| <+Andy> | thanks KN |
| Covered 1/4 NQ Short @ 1389.25 --> + 1.5 «« paper »» |
| * Spartan_Away | is now known as Spartan | 12:27 |
| <@NihabaAshi> | Covered ER2 Short @ 743.60 --> + 0.8 |
| going to lunch before my head splits | 12:28 |
| Be back later |
| <+Andy> | Covered Remainder NQ Short @ 1389.25 --> + 1.5 «« paper »» |
| * NihabaAshi | is now known as NihabaAshi_away |
| <+KN-ES> | Shorts ES @ 1389.50 | 12:29 |
| <+Andy> | Long NQ @ 2018.25 «« paper »» | 12:31 |
| * Flex_away | is now known as Flex | 12:32 |
| <+Andy> | Exited 3/4 NQ Long @ 2019.25 --> + 1 «« paper »» | 12:33 |
| Exited Remainder NQ Long @ 2017.75 --> - 0.5 «« paper »» | 12:34 |
| <+Spartan> | Long ER2 @ 743.5 -> small size «« paper »» |
| <+KN-ES> | nice Trade Andy | 12:37 |
| its not going anywhere |
| <+Andy> | thanks KN :) |
| <+KN-ES> | Covered all ES Short @ 1389.25 --> + 0.25 | 12:38 |
| dont want to fight with a market thats going almost nowhere......................... |
| need to break that 94.25 res | 12:39 |
| or 85.50 on downside |
| but very likely going up....... | 12:40 |
| holding that for 4 days |
| <+Spartan> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 742.9 --> - 0.6 «« paper »» | 12:44 |
| Shorts ER2 @ 743.5 «« paper »» | 12:53 |
| <+Andy> | Long ES @ 1388 «« paper »» | 12:54 |
| Exited all ES Long @ 1387.75 --> - 0.25 «« paper »» | 12:56 |
| Long ES @ 1387.25 «« paper »» | 13:00 |
| Exited 2/3 ES Long @ 1388.25 --> + 1 «« paper »» | 13:01 |
| Exited 1/3 ES Long @ 1387.25 --> 0 «« paper »» | 13:04 |
| <rotor> | Long ES @ 1387.5 «« paper »» |
| <+Spartan> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 743.9 --> - 0.4 «« paper »» | 13:09 |
| Long ER2 @ 743.6 -> small size «« paper »» | 13:12 |
| <codehead> | long 12485 Ym <paper> | 13:18 |
| <+codehead> | oil diving |
| (but working and don't have time to trade for real) |
| <+Andy> | Long ES @ 1388 «« paper »» | 13:19 |
| <+szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1388.25 «« paper »» | 13:20 |
| <+Andy> | Exited all ES Long @ 1388.25 --> + 0.25 «« paper »» | 13:21 |
| <+Spartan> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 743.1 --> - 0.5 «« paper »» | 13:22 |
| Shorts ER2 @ 743.1 -> small size «« paper »» |
| <+Andy> | wow...a bit whippy | 13:25 |
| <+szubaark> | yeah huge whip |
| exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1388.25 «« paper »» |
| <+Spartan> | This PA is really annoying me. I probably shouldn't be trading right now |
| <+Andy> | yes Spartan...time for the pause that refreshes :) | 13:26 |
| <+szubaark> | thats why ive been moving Stop to breakeven a lot today |
| <+rotor> | Exited all ES Long @ 1386.75 --> - 0.75 «« paper »» |
| <+szubaark> | Volatility spike |
| <+Andy> | the pause that refreshes...that used to be a cigarette commerical, right? | 13:28 |
| <+Spartan> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 741.4 --> + 1.7 «« paper »» |
| <+szubaark> | nice Spartan |
| <+Andy> | vn Spartan |
| <futurible> | vn Spartan | 13:29 |
| <+Spartan> | thanks, finally got a move |
| <+szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1384.75 --> + 3.5 «« paper »» |
| <+Andy> | vn szu | 13:30 |
| <+szubaark> | thanks |
| <+Spartan> | nice szu, good call |
| <+dragon310> | this may be the start of a big fall for er |
| * NihabaAshi_away | is now known as NihabaAshi |
| <+szubaark> | yup, any bounce now Sell | 13:31 |
| <@NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 739.70 -> medium size |
| Geeesh...what did you guys do to the market while I was gone. | 13:32 |
| <+dragon310> | any news? |
| <@NihabaAshi> | Must be KN selling |
| <+Andy> | exactly my thought |
| <@NihabaAshi> | intuition trade...just riding the wave |
| <+szubaark> | Weak Support area | 13:33 |
|