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| Session Start: Thu May 29 08:50:12 2008Session Ident: #futurestrades |
* Now | talking in #futurestrades | 08:50 |
<@X> | [NihabaAshi] #FuturesTrades info @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTradesChatRoom.htm and trade log archives @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/RecentTrades.htm |
<@NihabaAshi> | Good
morning all...I'll only be trading the a.m. trading session due to a
lot of personal stuff that needs to be done in the p.m. trading session. | 08:51 |
<pat255> | gm N .... |
<+pat255> | k... |
<@NihabaAshi> | Thus, I'll be cutting my profit goal for the day into 1/2 | 08:52 |
<werner> | hi rickf | 08:53 |
<tzar> | gm everyone | 08:58 |
<+werner> | gm tzar | 08:59 |
<+tzar> | how you doing werner | 09:00 |
<+werner> | good thanks :) | 09:02 |
<+tzar> | yesterday i did my first ER2 trade |
<+werner> | a good one? |
<+tzar> | was the most intense expereince in my life... i forgot about the time, and the second i shorted, market closed | 09:03 |
| had to count 15 min sec by sec |
| i ended up b.e. but should have made 40$ | 09:04 |
| got a bad fill |
| i did a market order |
<+werner> | ok :) | 09:05 |
<+tzar> | do you trade ER? |
<+werner> | yes | 09:06 |
| only scalps |
<+tzar> | how many contracts do you use? |
<+werner> | 2 |
<+tzar> | what do you use as a stop? | 09:07 |
<+werner> | 1 pont |
| point |
<+tzar> | 200$? |
<+werner> | yes |
<+tzar> | and what are your targets | 09:08 |
<+werner> | .3 |
<+tzar> | hmm |
<+werner> | i now |
<+tzar> | how is it working out ? |
<+werner> | but it works here :) |
<+tzar> | do you post your trades here? | 09:09 |
<+werner> | now its too fast |
<anglo> | gm | 09:10 |
<+tzar> | i want to follow |
| gm anglo |
<+anglo> | gm zar |
<+tzar> | do we break 1400 today ? | 09:12 |
<+anglo> | ask KN! |
<+tzar> | haha |
<+werner> | duno here | 09:13 |
<+tzar> | all depends on KN's mood |
<+werner> | lol |
<+tzar> | bon gunrino Flex | 09:15 |
<Flex> | buongiorno Tzar |
<+tzar> | NQ dont want to fall below 2000 |
<rotor> | gm all ) |
<+tzar> | Flex, i was close! | 09:16 |
<+Flex> | lol yeah |
<futurible> | gm all | 09:17 |
<+Flex> | gm |
<Andy> | gm all | 09:20 |
<+tzar> | morning Andy |
<+Flex> | Hi |
<+werner> | hi andy | 09:22 |
<+Andy> | yo tzar, flex, werner, rickf, rotor, pat, niha :) | 09:23 |
<+tzar> | lol |
<PapaJon> | gm all | 09:25 |
<lumenPharmer> | gm | 09:26 |
<+tzar> | gm PapaJon lumenPharmer |
<+lumenPharmer> | gold and oil down |
| tzar :) |
<+tzar> | good, oil must go down | 09:27 |
<+lumenPharmer> | ther will be blood ;) |
<+tzar> | haha |
<+lumenPharmer> | heheee, good movie |
<+tzar> | yep | 09:28 |
<drt> | gm | 09:29 |
<+tzar> | mornig |
| looks like KN is happy today, lots of upward pressure | 09:32 |
<+lumenPharmer> | Narrowest range in 13 trading days, have to be close to a trend day ;( | 09:34 |
| er |
<@NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 738.00 -> medium size | 09:35 |
| intuition |
<+werner> | wow | 09:36 |
<+tzar> | wow |
| ER just jumped up a point |
<Splurge> | lo all |
<+tzar> | in 1 sec |
<@NihabaAshi> | geesh |
<+Andy> | Shorts ES @ 1391 «« paper »» | 09:37 |
| Covered 1/4 ES Short @ 1390.25 --> + 0.75 «« paper »» | 09:38 |
| Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1390 --> + 1 «« paper »» |
<+tzar> | super nice hold NihabaAshi if you held it |
<@NihabaAshi> | If ??? | 09:39 |
<+tzar> | who am i kidding! |
<@NihabaAshi> | :) |
<+werner> | lol |
<+tzar> | does that happen often NihabaAshi? |
<+Andy> | Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1389.5 --> + 1.5 «« paper »» |
<szubaark> | Buys ES @ 1390 «« paper »» |
<+Splurge> | wheres the volume gone? |
<@NihabaAshi> | Yes...it happens every trading day... | 09:40 |
| I call it Pin Ball Machine price action |
<+tzar> | damn |
* nusssnougat | is now known as nussnougat |
<+tzar> | that thing mustve stopped a lot of people oit |
| out |
<+PapaJon> | yep.. kinda like riding a bronco or dirt bike |
<@NihabaAshi> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 739.00 --> - 1 | 09:41 |
<+szubaark> | exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1390 «« paper »» |
<+PapaJon> | I always have to go to the chiropractor after a day like this |
<@NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 739.30 -> medium size |
<Spartan> | Long ER2 @ 739.5 -> small size «« paper »» |
<+tzar> | lol PapaJon |
<+PapaJon> | :) |
<+szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 1392.50 --> + 2.5 «« paper »» | 09:42 |
<+Spartan> | nice szu | 09:43 |
<+szubaark> | thanks |
<@NihabaAshi> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 739.50 --> + 0.2 | 09:44 |
| crazy so far | 09:45 |
<+werner> | mmmm....price action |
| indd |
<@NihabaAshi> | Lots of Pin Ball Machine price action |
<+tzar> | whats price action? |
<+werner> | yep |
| like niha :) |
<+Spartan> | stop 739.1 | 09:46 |
<+werner> | dont now how too explane my englisch is not so well:( |
* subq | -=market profile charts updated=- http://www.charthub.com/chart/search/mpc hart | 09:47 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 740.10 -> medium size | 09:48 |
<+szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1393.25 «« paper »» | 09:50 |
<+Spartan> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 739.9 --> + 0.4 «« paper »» |
<+werner> | tzar: http://www.dacharts.com/articles/Buffy_o n_price_action.php |
<+tzar> | thank werner | 09:51 |
<+werner> | :) |
<+Spartan> | Shorts ER2 @ 739.8 -> small size «« paper »» | 09:52 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Price action slowing down...maybe now I can keep up with it a little in comparison to it being too fast for me. | 09:54 |
| volatility declining |
<+tzar> | NihabaAshi do you ever add to your position ( average )? |
<@NihabaAshi> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 739.60 --> + 0.5 | 09:56 |
<+szubaark> | exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1393.25 «« paper »» |
<@NihabaAshi> | tzar...sure...I
add but only in special situations when I think for what ever reasons
that I caught a trend and only ADD when I get another pattern signal. |
<disciple33> | Niha, isn't ES easier to trade when market gets volatile? | 09:58 |
<+disciple33> | vs. ER2 |
<+szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1393.25 --> 0 «« paper »» | 10:00 |
| got shaken out | 10:01 |
| Shorts ES @ 1391.50 «« paper »» |
<+Spartan> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 740.6 --> - 0.8 «« paper »» | 10:02 |
| bad trade for me |
<+tzar> | wow.. looking at ER2 time and sales... boy does it jump around |
<+Andy> | just had Help Wanted | 10:03 |
| 10:00 |
<+Spartan> | Long ER2 @ 740.7 -> small size «« paper »» |
| Exited all ER2 Long @ 739.7 --> - 1 «« paper »» | 10:04 |
| bad trading mistake, was not aware of report |
<+szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1389.75 --> + 1.75 «« paper »» | 10:05 |
<@NihabaAshi> | [09:58] <disciple33> Niha, isn't ES easier to trade when market gets volatile? | 10:06 |
| Depends on the method (strategy). | 10:07 |
<+Spartan> | Long ER2 @ 739.4 -> small size «« paper »» |
<@NihabaAshi> | Regardless, if your confused about what to trade... |
| Backtest your method on all the trading instruments you are considering for trading. |
| Choose the trading instrument that performs the best with your method. |
| Or choose the trading instrument that fits into your personal schedule :) | 10:08 |
| For example...I don't trade the best trading instrument for my method because of a conflict with my personal schedule. |
| Spouse won't allow me to get up around 1am est to start preparing for the DAX, FTSE 100 or CAC-40 | 10:09 |
| :( |
<+werner> | lol | 10:10 |
<+tzar> | whiped :P |
<nqcruiser> | is DAX the preferred pair Niha |
<+werner> | mmm my spouse will that i trade hangsang ,dax and us | 10:12 |
| i think she wil not see me | 10:14 |
<+Spartan> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 738.4 --> - 1 «« paper »» |
| ran my stop :( | 10:15 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Pin Ball Machine price action again :( |
<+szubaark> | yup, too fast to even get Order in |
<+Splurge> | Niha dax has even less volume than ER2 and usually sleeps until US wakes up. Dax is open for 11 hours closes 2 hours before US |
<+Spartan> | Long ER2 @ 739.8 -> small size «« paper »» | 10:16 |
<+szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1391 «« paper »» |
<@NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 739.80 -> medium size | 10:17 |
<tzar2> | back | 10:18 |
<@NihabaAshi> | crazy |
<+werner> | wow |
<@NihabaAshi> | Bronco Riding today |
<+szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1394 --> - 3 «« paper »» | 10:19 |
| Buys ES @ 1394 «« paper »» |
<+nqcruiser> | long @ 93 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Exited 3/4 ER2 Long @ 741.40 --> + 1.6 | 10:20 |
<+tzar2> | nice NihabaAshi |
* tzar2 | is now known as tzar |
<@NihabaAshi> | tightning up my trailing stop due to the bronco like price action | 10:21 |
| exit stop raised ER2 @ 741.00 |
<+nqcruiser> | connection lost - zenfire ouch!! | 10:22 |
| while i am stopless |
<@NihabaAshi> | :( |
<+Andy> | agree | 10:23 |
<@NihabaAshi> | becareful trading without stops due to the fact no platform, no ISP and no computer are perfect... |
| Shit happens and when it does...you want a stop in place. |
<+nqcruiser> | i am perfect ... |
| i dunno how to put stops on Ninja | 10:24 |
<@NihabaAshi> | :( |
<+nqcruiser> | can some1 kick es a little up.. |
<+tzar> | nqcruiser, sure just ask KN | 10:25 |
<+nqcruiser> | i took 62$ |
<+tzar> | we go trough 14000 today |
| 1400 |
<@NihabaAshi> | 5mins
away from the 1030am EIA Petroleum Status report that the market
started hyping is important to watch since early afternoon yesterday. |
<+nqcruiser> | i reserved the right to get and book profit | 10:26 |
| if lousy price action offers mo oops |
| 40$ mo and i call it quits and go home with $100 profity |
<+Andy> | 29th of the month...last day for mutual fund window dressing...SEC gets curious only on the very last day (tomorrow) | 10:27 |
<+Spartan> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 742.4 --> + 2.6 «« paper »» | 10:28 |
<+Andy> | vn Spartan |
<+Spartan> | thanks, made up for my dumb trades earlier |
<+nqcruiser> | i dont have a stops on Ninja | 10:29 |
| World's dammest trading platform when they dont provide a simple stop |
<@NihabaAshi> | Exited Remainder ER2 Long @ 741.30 --> + 1.5 | 10:30 |
<+nqcruiser> | i am short |
| reason: TOC |
<+szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 1391.25 --> - 2.75 «« paper »» |
| Shorts ES @ 1391.25 «« paper »» |
<@NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 740.80 -> medium size |
| crazy |
<+szubaark> | nutso action |
<@X> | #FuturesTrades Info ->
No gurus, no head traders. Members use this room to document (trade
journal) their trades and thoughts from one trade to the next trade
because it provides critical information they can't get from broker
statements nor statistics. Also, mimicking the trades by others is not
recommended without their permission. More info at
www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTradesChat Room.htm | 10:31 |
<+lumenPharmer> | oil boom |
<rep1acs> | yeah nqcruiser i dont like ninja for it's not easy to place stop orders |
<@NihabaAshi> | Hold on to your boot straps folks... |
| It's a BRONCO RIDE |
<+tzar> | holly crap |
| what a melt down |
<+szubaark> | back to back Volatility spikes, that went against me :( |
<+tzar> | :( |
<+Andy> | gotta laugh |
<@NihabaAshi> | That's what happens when the market and all the financial networks HYPE one of these key economic reports | 10:32 |
<+tzar> | there has to be a pull back |
<+Andy> | one cash contract short at 1394.75 (late entry) |
<+nqcruiser> | up 175$ |
<+tzar> | nice |
<ItalianSharp> | whats the oil report like? | 10:33 |
<+nqcruiser> | came to pappie ES |
| i am out |
| 200$ |
<+tzar> | nice | 10:34 |
<+nqcruiser> | i foresaw the stupid fall |
<+Andy> | exit 1389 +5.75 |
<+rotor> | Long ES @ 89.5 «« paper »» |
<@NihabaAshi> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 739.70 --> + 1.1 | 10:35 |
<+tzar> | crap i got too early on my NQ long |
<+rotor> | Exited 1/3 ES Long @ 91.25 --> + 1.75 «« paper »» |
<+tzar> | had really good long | 10:36 |
| 2006 |
<+rotor> | Exited all ES Long @ 91.5 --> + 2 «« paper »» |
<+tzar> | Long NQ @ 2006 |
| Exited all NQ Long @ 2007.75 --> + 1.75 | 10:37 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 739.30 -> small size |
<+tzar> | KN-ES welcome | 10:38 |
<KN-ES> | gm tzar |
<+Flex> | morning |
<+KN-ES> | gm |
<+tzar> | this whole jumping happend becuase KN-ES's cat walked on his keyboard, pressed the arrow down first, then up |
<+KN-ES> | Shorts ES @ 1393.25 | 10:39 |
| Covered all ES Short @ 1393.75 --> - 0.5 | 10:40 |
<+Spartan> | Shorts ER2 @ 740.5 -> small size «« paper »» |
<+KN-ES> | Shorts ES @ 1393.25 |
| s.l 1395.25 |
| brb |
<+Spartan> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 741.3 --> - 0.8 «« paper »» | 10:41 |
| nope |
<@NihabaAshi> | Exited 2/3 ER2 Long @ 741.10 --> + 1.8 |
<+Spartan> | nice niha |
| Shorts ER2 @ 740.1 -> small size «« paper »» | 10:42 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Pin Ball Machine price action |
<+Spartan> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 741.2 --> - 1.1 «« paper »» | 10:43 |
<@NihabaAshi> | crazy volatility today |
| Exited Remainder ER2 Long @ 741.00 --> + 1.7 |
<+Andy> | that's quite a sharp level in nq |
<+anglo> | mkt may get the 1400+ stops very soon | 10:44 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Geeesh...I cut my profit goal in 1/2 for the day because I won't be trading the p.m. trading session | 10:45 |
<+ItalianSharp> | niha,
crazy volatility in terms of interval range...however, we're stuck in a
trading range with very wide intervals, which makes it real hard |
<@NihabaAshi> | I'm now almost 3x above my goal |
<+Andy> | :) |
| you can buy a double scoop cone this weekend, niha | 10:46 |
<@NihabaAshi> | It's going to be a Sushi weekend :) |
<+nqcruiser> | nq not joing others |
<@NihabaAshi> | Days like today will make even a trader that uses Horoscope be profitable :) | 10:47 |
<+Andy> | may be thin gruel for the shorts today | 10:50 |
<+KN-ES> | :) |
<@NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 742.80 -> small size | 10:51 |
| intuition only |
<+Spartan> | Shorts ER2 @ 742.9 -> small size «« paper »» | 10:52 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Covered ER2 Short @ 743.30 --> - 0.5 | 10:53 |
| Reverse and Enter Long ER2 @ 743.30 |
| :( |
<+nqcruiser> | i took a hit too |
<@NihabaAshi> | Where's that Pin Ball Machine price action when I need it :) | 10:54 |
<+szubaark> | weird action last few minutes | 10:55 |
<+tzar> | Es preparing to break through | 10:57 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Exited ER2 Long @ 742.30 --> - 1 | 10:58 |
<rickf> | bak | 10:59 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Dust is starting to settle down... |
| Reducing my position size to correlate with the declining volatility | 11:00 |
<+nqcruiser> | i am short | 11:04 |
| hoping for a deeper pullback |
<@NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 742.30 -> small size | 11:05 |
<+nqcruiser> | ouch that was scarry | 11:08 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Covered ER2 Short @ 742.20 --> + 0.1 |
| Houdini Escape due to my entry was a trade error |
| volatility declining more | 11:12 |
| Expecting a volatility spike here soon but it most likely will be followed by a Pin Ball Machine price action :( | 11:13 |
<+rotor> | Shorts ES @ 98.25 «« paper »» |
<@NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 743.10 -> small size | 11:14 |
<+Spartan> | Covered Remainder ER2 Short @ 743 --> - 0.1 «« paper »» | 11:18 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Exited ER2 Long @ 742.70 --> - 0.4 |
| Price action obviously content with playing that small range... | 11:19 |
| Will play along with it. |
| Shorts ER2 @ 742.80 -> small size | 11:20 |
| Covered ER2 Short @ 742.30 --> + 0.5 | 11:21 |
| Long ER2 @ 742.20 -> small size | 11:22 |
<+Spartan> | Long ER2 @ 742.6 -> small size «« paper »» | 11:23 |
| Exited all ER2 Long @ 741.8 --> - 0.8 «« paper »» | 11:24 |
* Spartan | is now known as Spartan_Away |
<@NihabaAshi> | Exited ER2 Long @ 743.00 --> + 0.8 | 11:26 |
<+rotor> | Covered ES Short @ 92.25 --> + 6 «« paper »» | 11:28 |
| sorry 98.25 |
<+tzar> | Long NQ @ 2014.25 |
| Long NQ @ 2013.50 -> Add |
| Exited 1/2 NQ Long @ 2015.50 --> + 2 | 11:29 |
| Exited Remainder NQ Long @ 2016.00 --> + 1.75 |
<+werner> | nice | 11:30 |
<+rickf> | vn | 11:32 |
<+tzar> | thanks |
| was a long trade.. time wise |
<+rickf> | short es 1397.50 paper sm sz | 11:33 |
<+tzar> | 3 trades for the day, all 3 profitable |
<@NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 742.70 -> small size | 11:35 |
| wanted a higher short entry but was too slow in responding to that retest of the 743.00 price level | 11:36 |
<+rickf> | exit es 1398 -.5 paper | 11:37 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Covered ER2 Short @ 742.60 --> + 0.1 | 11:38 |
<+lumenPharmer> | oil back down |
<@NihabaAshi> | 3rd Houdini Escape of the day |
<+lumenPharmer> | lol houabaAshi ;) | 11:39 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 743.10 -> small size |
<+szubaark> | those prior WRBs took all the Volatilityh out of this for now | 11:41 |
| Covered all Short ES at 1398.25 --> - 7 «« paper »» |
| Buys ES @ 1398.25 «« paper »» | 11:42 |
<+werner> | a 1hour cosolidation sofar...pfffff |
| consolidation | 11:43 |
<+tzar> | Shorts ES @ 1398.25 |
| Covered all ES Short @ 1397.75 --> + 0.5 | 11:44 |
<+szubaark> | expecting Volatility spike soon, hopefully to upside,Im Long | 11:48 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Covered ER2 Short @ 744.70 --> - 1.6 | 11:49 |
| Reverse and Enter Long ER2 @ 744.70 |
| back up to 2 contracts again with the increasing volatility |
* codehead_afk | is now known as codehead | 11:51 |
<+rickf> | good call szu | 11:54 |
| short es 1400.75 paper sm sz | 11:55 |
<@NihabaAshi> | volatility declining :( | 11:56 |
| If it's going to do a volatility spike upwards... |
| Now is a good time for such especially since I'll be done trading soon :) | 11:57 |
<+rickf> | exit es 1400.75 b/e paper |
<@NihabaAshi> | Exited ER2 Long @ 744.90 --> + 0.2 | 12:00 |
| I gave it a tone of wiggle room but time ran out for me. | 12:01 |
| I'm done trading for the day...gotta do a ton of personal stuff now. |
<+rickf> | sheesh weird tape today -- or i'm not in-sync with it |
<+tzar> | bye NihabaAshi |
<+nqcruiser> | Thanx Niha |
<+szubaark> | those early back to back Volatility spikes made it Impossible to catch this upside breakout |
<+rickf> | short es 1399.75 paper sm sz | 12:05 |
<+nqcruiser> | does Ninja provide stoploss | 12:08 |
| i paid dealy for using the basic version |
| there seems to be no stops |
<+tzar> | not on basic version i belive |
<+Andy> | nq,
forgive the unasked advice, but...traders have been COMPLETELY wiped
out by not putting in "catatrophic stops"...you should not trade
without them | 12:10 |
<@NihabaAshi> | That's the first time I ever heard of a trading platform that doesn't have a stop/loss mechanism. |
<+rickf> | exit es 99.97 b/e paper |
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<+nqcruiser> | its the most stupid platform in the world | 12:11 |
| u cant put a stop |
<+szubaark> | he must be using the Free Version |
<+Andy> | rickf, in all seriousness, that was a good trade |
| you got out |
| when it wasn't working |
<+rickf> | second best outcome :) |
<+Andy> | yes |
<+nqcruiser> | i am using the free version | 12:12 |
| but ampfutures didnt tell me how to use stops |
| i am down -75 |
| after being up 225 |
<+Andy> | can't you get someone on the phone? |
| there must be a customer service number |
<+nqcruiser> | i trade from 3rd world | 12:14 |
| they dont answer 3rd world calls |
<+Andy> | do you have a second platform in which you can hedge the first? can you get access to cbot and hedge with ym? | 12:15 |
<+szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 1399.75 --> + 1.5 «« paper »» |
| Shorts ES @ 1399.75 «« paper »» |
<@NihabaAshi> | I don't recommend trading rising volatility or volatile market conditions like we had today without stops. | 12:16 |
<+nqcruiser> | I understand i have to use static dome |
<@NihabaAshi> | There was an unusual number of Pin Ball Machine like price action along with a few bronco rides... | 12:17 |
| Stopless can become painful quickly on a day like today. |
<+rep1acs> | nq have u tried placing stop orders by using middle click? |
<@NihabaAshi> | Any software designer that makes a platform without stop mechanism should be taken out back and beaten :( | 12:18 |
| I'm just in shock hearing that there's a platform out there that doesn't have a stop mechanism. | 12:19 |
<+tzar> | NihabaAshi what do you say.. we continue to go up or reversal is cominhg? |
<@NihabaAshi> | Market direction doesn't matter to me consideering my bias changes often throughout the trading day. | 12:20 |
| Further, I don't trade my bias. |
<+tzar> | i see |
<@NihabaAshi> | I use my bias to help a little with my position size management |
| Take care all and see all tomorrow. |
<+tzar> | you too | 12:21 |
| thanks |
* NihabaAshi | is now known as NihabaAshi_away |
<+rickf> | cya |
<+tzar> | 1 ES trade took my days profit :( |
<+rickf> | welcome to the wacky world of futures :( | 12:22 |
<+szubaark> | hehe rickf | 12:25 |
<+Andy> | hedge fund guys and mutual fund managers have now window dressed their month end positions...no interest in selling... |
<+rickf> | oyeaaaaah.....forgot 'bout windowdressing time | 12:26 |
<+szubaark> | notice the zig-zagging we did before this breakout,make sure nobody gets onboard LOL | 12:27 |
<+Andy> | except for the most obvious shorts, it has made me cautious about that side |
<+rickf> | yup |
<+szubaark> | this is just another creeper trend, im getting sick of those,Impossible to trade |
<+rickf> | yep and anemic volume | 12:28 |
| prolly good time for lunch, anyway :) |
<+ItalianSharp> | szu...agree,
really tough price action today...i used to suffer a lot in this kind
of days fortunately i've learned how to limit damage and even make some
money off of them |
<+rickf> | i need to just sit these periods out | 12:29 |
<+ItalianSharp> | rick, gonna tail you on that...lunch break for me now |
<+rickf> | ItalianSharp - you buying? |
| back in a bit |
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<+Andy> | I would expect to see some selling 08..13 | 12:41 |
* Spartan_Away | is now known as Spartan | 12:51 |
<+Spartan> | Long ER2 @ 750 -> small size «« paper »» | 12:52 |
<+ItalianSharp> | volatility just flatlined...we should get a spike soon | 13:01 |
<+rickf> | back | 13:02 |
<+Andy> | Shorts ES @ 1404.75 «« paper »» | 13:05 |
| Covered all ES Short @ 1404.75 --> 0 «« paper »» | 13:08 |
<+Spartan> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 749 --> - 1 «« paper »» | 13:17 |
<+rickf> | short es 1403.50 paper sm sz | 13:19 |
| exit 1403.50 b/e paper | 13:20 |
<+Spartan> | Long ER2 @ 749.2 «« paper »» | 13:33 |
<+rickf> | CFTC Announces Multiple Energy Market Initiatives | 13:41 |
| http://www.cftc.gov/newsroom/generalpres sreleases/2008/pr5503-08.html |
<+Spartan> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 749 --> - 0.2 «« paper »» | 13:42 |
<MK> | Shorts ER2 @ 749.2 «« paper »» | 13:59 |
<+MK> | Covered ER2 Short @ 749 --> + 0.2 «« paper »» | 14:02 |
| Reverse and Enter Long ER2 @ 749 «« paper »» |
* wesaside | is now known as wesaaside |
<+Andy> | I think I'm going to wait in line at the local Motor Vehicle Registration, just for a little excitement | 14:04 |
<+rickf> | lol |
| i was ready to call it a day and go take a nap myself |
<+Andy> | if not that, then call my tax accountant and see if there have been any interesting regulation changes |
<+rickf> | tho if it breaks to the downside......who knows |
<+Andy> | yah | 14:05 |
<+rickf> | read the phone directory... |
<+MK> | action should pick up in about 30 min when Bernanke speaks |
<+Andy> | just about to go for a bike ride, really |
| ah...then I'm out of here, see you all in an hour... |
<+rickf> | short es 1403 paper | 14:36 |
<+tzar> | back | 14:38 |
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www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTradesChat Room.htm | 14:40 |
<+ItalianSharp> | what's bernie saying to scare the markets? |
| usual bullshit? |
<+rickf> | dunno |
| not listennig |
<+ItalianSharp> | downside risk on economy and upside risks on inflation...same old crap |
<+tzar> | ES owes me 3 points |
<Bambam-77> | 1399.25 pos trgt then sub 1390's if this is a swing hi protect ss | 14:42 |
<+rickf> | exit 1/2 es 1402 +1 paper |
<+Bambam-77> | never straight down |
<+rickf> | yup |
<+Bambam-77> | a rtrc could get us to 1404 again | 14:43 |
| keep this in your play scale and trail your stps |
<+rickf> | i'm always leery in the pm sessions -- not my finest time to trade, so i tend to scalp-to-be-safe | 14:44 |
<+Bambam-77> | trend still neutral to down | 14:45 |
<+rickf> | agree |
| sl 1404 | 14:46 |
<+tzar> | Bambam-77 what price are you short at | 14:48 |
<+Bambam-77> | 06.25 murruy 8/8 had a stp at 1407.5 just in case i wAS WRONG | 14:49 |
<+tzar> | murruy ? |
<+Bambam-77> | MURREY MATH | 14:50 |
<+tzar> | not following |
<+rickf> | out 1404 |
| short es 1402 paper | 14:56 |
| see if i got it right this time.... |
<+Bambam-77> | we need rtrc to 1402.25 area | 15:01 |
<+rickf> | exit 1/2 es 1388.75 +2.25 paper | 15:03 |
| er 1399.75 | 15:04 |
| h5 |
<+tzar> | paper? | 15:05 |
<+rickf> | yes |
<+tzar> | BigDawg291 thought it was cash |
<BigDawg291> | lol |
<+rickf> | exit 3/5 es 1400.50 +1.5 paper | 15:07 |
| h2 | 15:08 |
| exit remainder es 1400 paper | 15:21 |
| +2 paper |
| i'm sure it's going lower.....but my head is killing me so I'm gonna go crash for a while |
<+szubaark> | i got a headache from this mornings Price Action | 15:24 |
<+Bambam-77> | pos trgt 1497 area might get a bounce there | 15:26 |
| 1397 |
<+tzar> | Shorts NQ @ 2024.50 | 15:41 |
| Covered all NQ Short @ 2023 --> + 1.5 |
<+Bambam-77> | pos setting up for dump tomorrow | 15:48 |
| moc order might drive us up |
<+szubaark> | they could still doit in last minutes on the day | 15:49 |
<+Bambam-77> | who really know's if short protect you $$ | 15:50 |
| i am flat |
<Brutus> | 05/29/2008 16:01 *DJ Dell 1Q Rev $16.08B Vs $14.72B, +9.2% >DELL | 16:01 |
<+Brutus> | 05/29/2008 16:01 *DJ Dell 1Q Net $784M Vs Net $756M, +3.7% >DELL | 16:02 |
<+werner> | gn all |
<+Brutus> |
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<+szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1399.25 --> + 0.5 «« paper »» | 16:07 |
<+ItalianSharp> | ugly close for eminis | 16:08 |
<+szubaark> | ugly day |
<+tzar> | i love the day today |
| except 1 badly calculated ES trade |
<+Andy> | gn all | 16:10 |
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