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| Session Start: Wed May 28 07:33:58 2008Session Ident: #futurestrades |
* Now | talking in #futurestrades | 07:33 |
<@X> | [NihabaAshi] #FuturesTrades info @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTradesChatRoom.htm and trade log archives @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/RecentTrades.htm |
<@NihabaAshi> | Good morning all...will be back later | 07:34 |
* NihabaAshi | is now known as NihabaAshi_away |
<anglo> | gm | 08:34 |
<tzar> | good morning everyone | 08:45 |
<+tzar> | gm Flex | 08:50 |
<Flex> | goodmorning |
<+tzar> | look where nq is | 08:51 |
| morning dragon310 | 09:04 |
<rickf> | gm all | 09:05 |
<+tzar> | NQ wants to stay above 2000 | 09:07 |
| sup rickf | 09:11 |
<+rickf> | gm |
<+tzar> | gm |
| you watching NQ? |
<+rickf> | not much |
<nqcruiser> | GM all | 09:13 |
* NihabaAshi_away | is now known as NihabaAshi | 09:14 |
<+tzar> | KN-ES gm | 09:16 |
<KN-ES> | gm tzar |
<+Flex> | morning | 09:17 |
<+KN-ES> | gm |
<+anglo> | elvis has entered the building...gm KN. |
<+KN-ES> | Flex |
| hi anglo |
<ItalianSharp> | morning all | 09:21 |
<+Flex> | ciao | 09:22 |
<+rickf> | bon giorno |
* sep34_away | is now known as sep34 | 09:24 |
<PapaJon> | gm all | 09:25 |
<+tzar> | gm PapaJon |
<+nqcruiser> | how do u get YM on esignal - mine is not showing data |
<+PapaJon> | ym requires an additional exchange fee | 09:26 |
| for now just use the index |
<+nqcruiser> | index? |
<+PapaJon> | unless u are trying to trade it.. :) |
<futurible> | gm all | 09:27 |
<+nqcruiser> | no i am trading es using 5 minis and dax |
| which index |
<+PapaJon> | $indu |
| the patterns are very close |
| not exact but similar |
| one drawback is that the index is only rth not all session | 09:28 |
<+rickf> | nq -- same setup as me :) |
<+nqcruiser> | but different bankroll and fear levels mate ;) | 09:29 |
<+rickf> | lol no worries |
<+nqcruiser> | i chicke quickly |
<+rickf> | i do do -- trust me :) |
<+nqcruiser> | quickly in quickly out |
| any1 from South Africa? |
<drt> | gm all | 09:30 |
<+rickf> | short es 1389 paper |
| cxl - order didnt fire |
<+nqcruiser> | odd year nos on nq | 09:31 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Gold and Oil getting hit out of the gate | 09:32 |
<@X> | #FuturesTrades Info ->
No gurus, no head traders. Members use this room to document (trade
journal) their trades and thoughts from one trade to the next trade
because it provides critical information they can't get from broker
statements nor statistics. Also, mimicking the trades by others is not
recommended without their permission. More info at
www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTradesChat Room.htm | 09:33 |
<+KN-ES> | again | 09:35 |
| scripts is not working |
| ...........-> ** Shorts @ 1389.25 | 09:36 |
<KN-ES> | Shorts ES @ 1389.25 | 09:37 |
<+KN-ES> | finally |
<+rickf> | that's what i was expecting |
<+KN-ES> | -> -------Shorts @ 1389.25 |
<szubaark> | Buys ES @ 1387.50 «« paper »» |
<+KN-ES> | it printed but wasnt showing i guess |
| Covered 3/4 ES Short @ 1387.75 --> + 1.5 | 09:38 |
| s.l 2 |
| brb | 09:39 |
| need to fix the software again |
<@NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 735.90 -> medium size |
<+szubaark> | exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1387.50 «« paper »» |
| Exited all Long ES at 1389.75 --> + 2.25 «« paper »» | 09:40 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Pin Ball Machine price action | 09:41 |
| Exited 1/2 ER2 Long @ 737.00 --> + 1.1 | 09:42 |
| Exited Remainder ER2 Long @ 736.40 --> + 0.5 | 09:43 |
<+KN-ES> | .net framwork |
| sorry. wrong window |
<dragon310> | short er 736.30 | 09:44 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 736.10 -> medium size |
| intuition |
<+szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1387.25 «« paper »» | 09:45 |
<+rickf> | short es 1387 paper | 09:48 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 734.80 --> + 1.3 | 09:49 |
<+dragon310> | coverer er short @ 734.7 --> +1.7 |
<+ItalianSharp> | markets kinda nervous |
<+KN-ES> | Covered 1/4 ES Short @ 1385.25 --> + 4 | 09:50 |
| h7 |
| out 2 not 1/4 |
<+rickf> | exit es 1386 +1 paper | 09:51 |
<+KN-ES> | Covered 1/4 ES Short @ 1386.25 --> + 3 |
| h5 |
<+szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1385.25 --> + 2 «« paper »» | 09:55 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Oil indices have retraced the early losses | 09:58 |
<+szubaark> | Buys ES @ 1384 «« paper »» | 10:03 |
<+ItalianSharp> | sloppy price action thus far |
| hey szu...that's an unusual entry for you | 10:04 |
| you changed something in your trading? |
<+szubaark> | no, not really.. | 10:05 |
<+ItalianSharp> | it's the first i see you buy while ES is dropping | 10:06 |
<+szubaark> | just buying what i think might be "Support" |
<+ItalianSharp> | that's good | 10:07 |
| much better than chasing price action :) |
<+szubaark> | hehe..ok i see what u mean |
| Exited all Long ES at 1383.25 --> - 0.75 «« paper »» | 10:09 |
<+KN-ES> | Covered 1/4 ES Short @ 1383.25 --> + 6 |
| h4 |
<+szubaark> | Buys ES @ 1383 «« paper »» | 10:11 |
<+dragon310> | long er 731.5 |
| cover er 731.5 --> +0 | 10:20 |
<+KN-ES> | Covered 1/4 ES Short @ 1381.25 --> + 8 | 10:21 |
| h3 |
<+szubaark> | nice KN |
<pat255> | vvn kn ... |
<+tzar> | having a good day KN-ES, eh? |
<+KN-ES> | thanks |
<+pat255> | dang all messed up ...today .. |
| did not trade for the last 1 week.. | 10:22 |
<+KN-ES> | computer working fine........ everything else should be ok |
<+nqcruiser> | what gap on 1min | 10:23 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 732.10 -> small size | 10:27 |
| 2 only...intuition |
<werner> | gm all | 10:31 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Exited ER2 Long @ 732.30 --> + 0.2 |
| some pin ball machine price action showed up to put a little fear in me. | 10:32 |
<+KN-ES> | 87 should be next swing high......... |
| i guess |
<@NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 732.70 -> small size | 10:34 |
| 1 only...intuition |
<+silo> | er2 bounced off globex low | 10:35 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Exited ER2 Long @ 732.00 --> - 0.7 | 10:38 |
| Long ER2 @ 732.40 -> medium size | 10:39 |
| intuition |
<+szubaark> | easy to get shaken out in this pinball type price action | 10:40 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Exited ER2 Long @ 733.10 --> + 0.7 | 10:41 |
<+szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 1384.50 --> + 1.5 «« paper »» | 10:46 |
<+nqcruiser> | Did eminitrader called it a day and moved on | 10:47 |
<+szubaark> | not sure, he had connection problems with Mirc |
<@NihabaAshi> | Yeah...big time connection problems...chronic |
<+nqcruiser> | i have paid up version and never had probs | 10:49 |
<+pat255> | kn your trades are based on what tf chart? if u dont mid answer | 10:52 |
<+szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1383.75 «« paper »» | 10:54 |
<@NihabaAshi> | weak resistance ER2 | 10:55 |
| Long ER2 @ 733.80 -> small size | 10:58 |
| 1 only...intuition | 10:59 |
<lumenPharmer> | Pat, don't think KN uses charts, i think he said he uses a 1 min to scale out | 11:00 |
<+tzar> | he looks at time and sales |
<+lumenPharmer> | or order book, time and sales | 11:01 |
<@NihabaAshi> | I lack the patience for this creeper like up movement that sometimes goes into a pin ball machine price action :( |
<+pat255> | k tthks | 11:02 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Exited ER2 Long @ 733.30 --> - 0.5 | 11:03 |
<+lumenPharmer> | KN is a alien, oops now he has to kill me ;) |
<+tzar> | someone ones said that KN-ES moves the market with the arrow keys on his keyboard.. | 11:04 |
<+lumenPharmer> | from the planet money ;) hehhe |
<+szubaark> | small Volatility spike |
<+lumenPharmer> | lol tzar |
<+tzar> | for some reason .. i tend to belive that | 11:05 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 732.70 -> small size | 11:08 |
| This may be my last trade in this price action |
| Will go on a long lunch break and hopefully when I return...the price action is a lot smoother...up or down. | 11:09 |
| volatility contracting | 11:11 |
<+szubaark> | small Volatility spike to downside | 11:12 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Exited ER2 Long @ 731.80 --> - 0.9 | 11:13 |
| Reverse and Enter Short ER2 @ 731.80 |
<+szubaark> | hopfully we get another Volatility spike downside, before it starts contracting again | 11:16 |
| exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1383.75 «« paper »» | 11:21 |
| too much chop, good time to take a break |
<@NihabaAshi> | contracting volatility again |
| It's not a problem as long as the Pin Ball Machine price action doesn't show up | 11:22 |
| Lost me patience on this trade... | 11:23 |
<Splurge> | damn
it first trade today and I transmit close on ninja exactly the same
time my b/e stop kicks and it reversed my trade and lost me 3 ticks | 11:24 |
<+szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1381.50 --> + 2.25 «« paper »» | 11:25 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Covered ER2 Short @ 730.60 --> + 1.2 | 11:26 |
| Houdini escape...be back later and hopefully the price action is much nicer to trade | 11:27 |
* NihabaAshi | is now known as NihabaAshi_lunch |
<+KN-ES> | last try b4 going down ! 84.50 | 11:37 |
| humm......last swing high was 86.50 |
| <pat255>
kn your trades are based on what tf chart? if u dont mid answer
.............. Pat255 dont use any charts to enter | 11:38 |
<+pat255> | ah ha ..k thks |
| appreciate .. | 11:39 |
<+KN-ES> | sorry, was out for lunch' |
<+pat255> | np |
<@X> | #FuturesTrades Info ->
No gurus, no head traders. Members use this room to document (trade
journal) their trades and thoughts from one trade to the next trade
because it provides critical information they can't get from broker
statements nor statistics. Also, mimicking the trades by others is not
recommended without their permission. More info at
www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTradesChat Room.htm |
<+KN-ES> | 84.25 .. | 11:40 |
<+tzar> | 84.25 what would equalent be on NQ ? | 11:44 |
<+KN-ES> | tzar, i have no idea... i dont even have any chart open | 11:45 |
| working with only 2 lcds today | 11:46 |
<+tzar> | how many usually? |
<+KN-ES> | normally atleast 6 |
| for analysis and another cpu with 2 lcds for placing trade | 11:47 |
| brb | 11:50 |
| Covered 1/4 ES Short @ 1379.25 --> + 10 | 12:01 |
| h2 |
<+rickf> | back | 12:03 |
<+tzar> | KN-ES, 4 lcd for analysis.. tought you used only a 1 min chart, brain cell, and time and sales |
<+KN-ES> | :) | 12:04 |
| i dont use charts |
<+tzar> | ok |
<+KN-ES> | thats doesnt mean i dont use other means of analysis :) |
<+tzar> | :) |
| i see |
<+KN-ES> | i use market depth in one lcd |
| 24 inch |
| i need to see all those bars big.... so that i dont miss things | 12:05 |
<+tzar> | what do you mean big bars?, volume bars? |
<+KN-ES> | nop |
<+pat255> | kn u look at the T/S window for entry? |
<+KN-ES> | BIG SIZE |
<+tzar> | ah i see | 12:06 |
| orders |
<+KN-ES> | so big that even a blind can see that |
<+tzar> | haha |
| 1000+ ? |
<+KN-ES> | or for you, you can see those bars from the moon |
| big and fat bars | 12:07 |
| :) |
<+tzar> | i can only see 5 levels of depth, do you see more? |
<+szubaark> | is time & sales same as market depth? |
<+tzar> | level2 , dome is the market depth |
<+KN-ES> | nop |
| if you go the the analysis bar in ts |
<Brutus> | KN is there any software to give a 3D view of the DOM - with time? |
<+KN-ES> | there is a button for market depth there |
| Brutus, wealth lab can do that | 12:08 |
<+Brutus> | great!, any others? |
<+KN-ES> | try 4.0 professional |
<+Brutus> | ok |
<+tzar> | do you use any special software to see the "big fat ones"? | 12:09 |
<+KN-ES> | no Brutus, i dont see any other |
| tradestation and 24 inch lcd |
| wil give you way big and much fat bars in market depth |
<+tzar> | i have a 24" |
<+KN-ES> | great |
| just open a seperate desktop of ts | 12:10 |
| and maximize it......... |
<+tzar> | ok |
<+KN-ES> | with market depth box |
<+tzar> | i understand where you going with this | 12:11 |
| numerically speaking, what is a big order.. 1000? ( for ES) |
<+KN-ES> | in market depth window you hardly can see anything like 1000+ | 12:12 |
| you just see the ratio of bid and ask and bars in next few prices in the lader |
| time and sale will give you 100+ or 1000+ orders |
<+tzar> | i see | 12:13 |
| interesting |
| what about the other 3 lcd |
<+KN-ES> | in one i play chess |
<+tzar> | haha |
| is that the key for your success? | 12:14 |
<+KN-ES> | depends how you may define success | 12:15 |
<+tzar> | ;) |
| being disciplined i guess |
| KN-ES do you have msn messenger? we can play some chess togather | 12:17 |
| used to play chess a lot | 12:18 |
<+KN-ES> | :) |
| i will install it |
<+tzar> | great | 12:19 |
<+KN-ES> | well, if you play with me then you will have to define success again......... it will be hell easy for you :) |
<+tzar> | you are just being nice |
<+ItalianSharp> | any news leaked out that caused this upthrust | 12:20 |
<+KN-ES> | well, i dont think i will have work hard to prove myself.......its just come automatically........ |
| :) |
<+tzar> | there is only one way to find out :) |
| no kidding ItalianSharp |
| something mustve happend |
<+ItalianSharp> | YM rebounded by 40pts in a matter of 5-6 mins | 12:21 |
<+tzar> | i think KN-ES pressed the wrong arrow key |
<+ItalianSharp> | lol |
<BigDawg291> | lol |
<+KN-ES> | and i can gurantee your success when its chess playing against me :) |
<+ItalianSharp> | and this is an unusual time of the day to get that kind of rebounds |
| FED member yellen was due up at 11.50am... |
<+tzar> | yes, its lunch time | 12:22 |
<+ItalianSharp> | maybe he caused this |
<+KN-ES> | well, lets try it other way |
| we are making lower highs........ 86.50 84.25 .. |
<+tzar> | thats true |
| whats the next high? |
| 8.50? |
<+ItalianSharp> | whatever it was, i would love to know |
<+tzar> | 83.50 |
<+KN-ES> | so we are still in downtred as long as we are below 93.25 |
* codehead_afk | is now known as codehead | 12:29 |
<+tzar> | KN-ES, thats 2 lcd remaining ;) |
<Guest> | Shorts ER2 @ 732.8 «« paper »» | 12:32 |
<+KN-ES> | tzar, i mainly trade dax..... so i have my dax analysis | 12:35 |
<+tzar> | ahh i se | 12:37 |
| see |
<+rickf> | dax is the es on crack :( | 12:38 |
<+tzar> | how come you like dax more |
| why do you say taht rickf |
<+KN-ES> | coz dax is more challenging |
<+rickf> | a 'wiggle' on the es is nothing like a 'wiggle' on the dax in terms of points/movement/motion |
<+KN-ES> | :) |
| dax and hsi are much more interesting compare to es or er | 12:39 |
| way much more |
<+rickf> | i've traded it virtually and it frankly is beyond my comfort level |
| i heard that if the dax is the es on crack, then the hsi is the dax on crack :) |
<+KN-ES> | well, it takes time to get used to with all those quick and massive moves |
| yes |
| his is the best |
| we are not allow to trade his emin | 12:40 |
| i |
| thats one problem |
| in that sense dax is pretty resonable |
| i have a dax trade vedio somewhere...........will post it in the forum if i can figure it out how to edit it | 12:41 |
| video |
<+rickf> | brb |
<rep1acs> | kn how big is ur stop loss on dax normally? cuz i see it can move 10 ticks just for fun.. |
<+KN-ES> | depends | 12:42 |
| i use swing high lows |
| but usually its arround 5 points |
<+tzar> | how much is it per point? | 12:43 |
<+rep1acs> | i can see i'd get whipsawed if i use stop loss for less than 5pts.. |
<+KN-ES> | :) |
| i dont post dax trades here anymore...... i dont see if anyone else trades dax here | 12:44 |
<+rep1acs> | do u trade dax during the europe session? |
<+KN-ES> | both eruope and us |
| till 12 pm |
<+rep1acs> | i like it but its too volatile for me :( |
<+KN-ES> | after 12 it goes cash...... volatility and liquidity drops like hell | 12:45 |
<+tzar> | going to the gym now, see you at around 2 oclock |
<+KN-ES> | take care |
| i like the volatility |
| dax is a nice insrument for scalping |
<+rickf> | sorry had to nuke lunch and flip landury | 12:46 |
| back |
<+KN-ES> | easliy can gain 5-15 ticks |
| and if its trending then.....its a huge plus |
<+rep1acs> | yeah |
<+KN-ES> | i think i got 132 points in one trade.... |
<+rep1acs> | i occassionally check the charts |
<+rickf> | i find dax great leading indicator for es | 12:47 |
<+KN-ES> | :) |
<+rickf> | in the us am session |
<+rep1acs> | if u get in the right trend..wowwwwwwwww |
| =) |
<+rickf> | :) |
<+KN-ES> | es is very very very very slow compare to dax |
<+rickf> | penchant for understatement, you have |
| :) |
<+rep1acs> | i dont trade us stock indices...too slow.. |
<+KN-ES> | sorry rickf | 12:48 |
| :) |
<+rickf> | hehe |
| tho star made the shift to the nq, perhaps he sees somethign there we dont :) | 12:49 |
| when i got here he was a 'star' es trader as i recall :) |
<+KN-ES> | i tried 15 contracts once. got filled in 15 different places :( |
<+rickf> | wow |
<+KN-ES> | in es, 40+- contracts get filled without any problem | 12:50 |
<+rickf> | did that virtually a few times just "for fun" -- we can all aspire to that level of greatness |
<+KN-ES> | well, if you ask, its way too easy if you have more contracts | 12:51 |
| if i start trading now with 1 contracts, i m sure i wont survive even a day |
<+rickf> | problem imo with trading large lots is this -- | 12:52 |
<+Flex> | I can trade FDAX on Eurex but i think it stops trading at 1100ET 17:00 local |
<Bear> | hello..i
bought the 3 strategies from a while but i still have some difficulty
in understanding it...maybe here i can learn something...do u trade
forex here??? |
<+rickf> | when
i did that virtually (30-40 es contracts) i would see action in my
favor, proclaim "wow!" and exit based only on the dollar amount |
| not on my strategy | 12:53 |
<+Flex> | Bear I just bought STR olast weekend, I am a total rookie but we can try to learn together if you like |
<+KN-ES> | <Flex>
I can trade FDAX on Eurex but i think it stops trading at 1100ET 17:00
local ............. yes Flex...... then it goes cash |
<+Flex> | so you stop trading it before 11:00am KN ? | 12:54 |
<+KN-ES> | i stop trading by 12 |
<+Flex> | ok |
<+rickf> | i sop using it as an 'indicator' by 12 as well |
<+Bear> | flex..yeah sure..but i still dont understand the WRB..its so complicated..a lot of ideas |
| flex..the other strategies are based on WRB i guess | 12:55 |
<+Flex> | Bear I started WRB as well |
| WRB is the most important part |
| the fundamentals |
| the basement |
<+Bear> | flex..that what i hope to understand it here |
<+rep1acs> | KN do u trade dj euro stoxx? | 12:56 |
<+Flex> | we will :) |
<+KN-ES> | rickf, you will have to start with 1 contracts.........then add 1 more at a time in each 2/3 weeks |
| may help |
<+Bear> | flex..i just trade forex currencies...you? |
<+Flex> | Bear I am just trying to learn to trade something | 12:57 |
<+KN-ES> | rep1ace, no i dont trade but follow stoxx 50. |
<+rickf> | oh
i am comfy running 8 now -- but when i did the big lots "just to see" I
was in a whole 'nother league....again, working up to that, used to run
4 |
<+Bear> | flex..hope u will |
<+KN-ES> | cool |
<+rep1acs> | KN is it a bit slower than dax? | 12:58 |
<+Flex> | I traded Forex but mainly to hedge my usd account because in the last 18 months USD behaved worse than romanian Leu |
<+KN-ES> | to me, yes |
<+Bear> | at what time Mr. Niha comes to this room..anyone knows ?? |
<+rickf> | i do occsional fx trades pre-market, but it's nothing planned, usually momentum scalps based on news |
| usually close them out by 11AM |
<+Flex> | now I am studying STR to trade Index Futures, ES, YM | 12:59 |
<+KN-ES> | but stoxx is very very volatile and luquid...... you shouldnt have any problem trading |
<+Bear> | these strategies are for every market ? | 13:00 |
<+Flex> | for markets listed in WRB pages let me check... |
<+KN-ES> | rep1ace: you may follow ftse if you are planning to trade stoxx....... they follow each other close | 13:01 |
<+Bear> | flex..i red on the forum that can be on any market...but Niha said that they dont have the time to trade all markets | 13:02 |
<+Flex> | let's say that Niha "guarantees" these strategies for markets they have already tested such as futures FX and so on | 13:03 |
<+szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1382.75 «« paper »» |
<+Flex> | but not any |
| there is a list somewhere |
<+Brutus> | http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread .php?s=&threadid=126809 | 13:04 |
<+Flex> | Bear join the swingtradingTSL room | 13:05 |
| it is the dedicated room to STR users |
<+KN-ES> | thanks Brutus, nice post |
<+Flex> | I can't find that list now but I am sure it included FX, Index Futures |
| not stocks | 13:06 |
<+Bear> | flex..thanks | 13:07 |
<+Flex> | yw |
| you can find the SwingTradingTSL room password in your reserved forum area |
<+Bear> | ok | 13:08 |
<V_trader> | Shorts YM @ 12552 -> small size | 13:29 |
<Widgetman> | 559 line for me to try | 13:30 |
<+Widgetman> | I got up cycle YM fwiw |
<+szubaark> | they keep poking for Stops, lunch time | 13:31 |
<+Widgetman> | y |
| I got my 59 short | 13:32 |
| stop 68 |
| 540 ideal tgt |
<+szubaark> | Vtrader nice entry at the Fibz | 13:33 |
<+Widgetman> | flat 1/2 |
| stop 56 last |
| 55 |
| 53 |
| 50 |
| 49 |
<+rickf> | short nq 1994.25 paper |
<+Widgetman> | chasin |
| hehe |
| love chasin a winnin trade |
| flat | 13:34 |
<+V_trader> | exit stop moved to breakeven YM @ 12552 |
<+rickf> | exut nq 1992 +2,25 paper |
<+Widgetman> | hang in there V |
<+rickf> | er exit |
<+szubaark> | rick, switching to NQ? | 13:35 |
<+rickf> | papertrading it a fw times yeah |
| want to get a feel for it -- seems more 'smooth' than es |
<+szubaark> | yeah, but they change it, when its choppy, its nasty |
<+Widgetman> | lol | 13:36 |
| they all nasty |
<+rickf> | when ANYTHING's chopy it's nasty |
<+Widgetman> | here comes40 |
| YM |
| may bounce it |
<+V_trader> | Covered 2/3 YM Short @ 12542 --> + 10 |
<+Widgetman> | wtg |
<+rickf> | vn | 13:37 |
<+V_trader> | Covered Remainder YM Short @ 12545 --> + 7 | 13:38 |
| Long YM @ 12546 -> large size |
<+rickf> | short nq 1990.75 paper | 13:41 |
<+szubaark> | rick nice thing about NQ is tick is only $5 a pop |
<+rickf> | yep |
<+V_trader> | Long YM @ 12532 -> Add | 13:42 |
<+szubaark> | ES back to the prior Congestion area |
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<+rickf> | exit nq 1389.75 +1 paper | 13:46 |
* Spartan_Away | is now known as Spartan |
<+Spartan> | Long ER2 @ 723.3 -> small size «« paper »» | 13:47 |
| Exited all ER2 Long @ 723.3 --> 0 «« paper »» | 13:48 |
| Long ER2 @ 732.3 -> small size «« paper »» |
<+V_trader> | Exited all YM Long @ 12526 --> - 26 |
<+Spartan> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 731.4 --> - 0.9 «« paper »» | 13:52 |
<+BigDawg291> | Shorts ES @ 1382.25 | 13:54 |
<+szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1382.75 --> 0 «« paper »» | 13:57 |
| Buys ES @ 1382.75 «« paper »» |
<+Spartan> | Long ER2 @ 732.1 -> small size «« paper »» | 13:58 |
<+szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 1382.50 --> - 0.25 «« paper »» | 14:00 |
| stuck in the mud |
<+Spartan> | Long ER2 @ 732.1 -> Add «« paper »» | 14:03 |
<MK> | Covered ER2 Short @ 732.5 --> + 0.3 «« paper »» | 14:07 |
| Reverse and Enter Long ER2 @ 732.5 «« paper »» |
<+szubaark> | Buys ES @ 1382.75 «« paper »» | 14:08 |
<+Spartan> | Exited 1/2 ER2 Long @ 733.1 --> + 1 «« paper »» |
<+szubaark> | exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1382.75 «« paper »» | 14:11 |
<+Spartan> | exit stop set ER2 @ 732.6 «« paper »» | 14:12 |
<+MK> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 733.6 --> + 1.1 «« paper »» | 14:13 |
<+szubaark> | big boys must be still on lunch LOL | 14:14 |
<+Spartan> | hopefully their stops get ran over while they are feeding their faces | 14:15 |
<+rickf> | suits me fine, i'm finally getting my volume bars colored correctly :) |
<+szubaark> | Spartan im sure their laptops are not far away |
<+BigDawg291> | Shorts ES @ 1383.75 -> Add | 14:16 |
<+szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 1382.75 --> 0 «« paper »» |
<+MK> | Shorts ER2 @ 733.2 «« paper »» |
<+Spartan> | szu-true, they wouldn't be big boys if they weren't watching their stops |
| Exited all ER2 Long @ 732.6 --> + 0.5 «« paper »» | 14:18 |
<+BigDawg291> | Covered all ES Short @ 1381.50 --> + 3 | 14:19 |
<Bear> | YM? | 14:21 |
<+szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1381 «« paper »» | 14:22 |
<+MK> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 731.8 --> + 1.4 «« paper »» | 14:23 |
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<+Spartan> | Long ER2 @ 732.5 -> small size «« paper »» | 14:24 |
| Long ER2 @ 732.5 -> Add «« paper »» | 14:26 |
<+MK> | Long ER2 @ 732.2 «« paper »» |
<+rickf> | long nq 1991 paper | 14:37 |
<+szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1383.50 --> - 2.5 «« paper »» | 14:38 |
| Buys ES @ 1383.50 «« paper »» |
| hopefully its not a fakeout LOL |
<+rickf> | exit 1/2 nq 1993 +2 paper |
| exit nq 1992.25 +1.25 paper | 14:39 |
<+MK> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 733.6 --> + 1.4 «« paper »» | 14:40 |
<+Spartan> | Exited 1/2 ER2 Long @ 733.9 --> + 1.4 «« paper »» | 14:41 |
<+rickf> | funny the es/er/nq are all bouncing off that fib line |
| talk about syngergy | 14:42 |
<+Spartan> | seems like es is holding the open 1380.75 very nicely |
<+MK> | Shorts ER2 @ 733.3 «« paper »» |
<+szubaark> | we getting some strong bounces off the lows, lets see if bears throw in the towel | 14:44 |
<+MK> | Shorts ER2 @ 733.8 -> Add «« paper »» | 14:45 |
<+rickf> | the es is bouncing off the PP all day, actually |
<+Spartan> | Exited Remainder ER2 Long @ 732.7 --> + 0.2 «« paper »» | 14:52 |
* NihabaAshi_lunch | is now known as NihabaAshi | 14:57 |
<+Spartan> | Long ER2 @ 733 -> small size «« paper »» | 14:58 |
<+szubaark> | lets see if the 3pm bunch get this moving | 14:59 |
| exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1383.50 «« paper »» | 15:04 |
<+tzar> | NihabaAshi you back? | 15:05 |
<+MK> | Shorts ER2 @ 734.4 -> Add «« paper »» |
<+Spartan> | exit stop set ER2 @ 733.5 «« paper »» |
| exit stop raised ER2 @ 734 «« paper »» | 15:07 |
| Exited all ER2 Long @ 734 --> + 1 «« paper »» | 15:10 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 733.80 -> small size | 15:11 |
<+szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 1383.50 --> 0 «« paper »» | 15:12 |
| Shorts ES @ 1383.50 «« paper »» |
<+Spartan> | Shorts ER2 @ 734 -> small size «« paper »» | 15:13 |
<startrader> | Shorts NQ @ 1992.50 | 15:17 |
<+Spartan> | initial stop 735 |
| 735.1 | 15:18 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Covered ER2 Short @ 734.80 --> - 1 | 15:19 |
<+MK> | Shorts ER2 @ 734.8 -> Add «« paper »» |
<+szubaark> | Pinball type price action | 15:22 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Yep |
| Geeesh | 15:25 |
<+rickf> | :( |
<@NihabaAshi> | Will stay at 1 contract after seeing that :) |
<+szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1387 --> - 3.5 «« paper »» | 15:26 |
| Buys ES @ 1387 «« paper »» |
<+Spartan> | Covered ER2 Short @ 735 --> - 1 «« paper »» |
| Reverse and Enter Long ER2 @ 735 «« paper »» |
<@NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 735.50 -> small size |
| intuition |
<+szubaark> | sneaky zig-zagging breakout | 15:27 |
<+rickf> | grr |
<+Spartan> | see if er2 tests high | 15:28 |
| exit stop set ER2 @ 736 «« paper »» | 15:30 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Exited ER2 Long @ 737.00 --> + 1.5 | 15:32 |
<+rickf> | long nq 1999.25 paper | 15:33 |
<+Spartan> | exit stop raised ER2 @ 736.9 «« paper »» | 15:34 |
| Exited all ER2 Long @ 736.9 --> + 1.9 «« paper »» | 15:35 |
<+rickf> | exit nq 2000 +.75 paper |
<+szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 1388 --> + 1 «« paper »» | 15:42 |
<+Spartan> | Long ER2 @ 735.7 -> small size «« paper »» |
<@NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 736.00 -> small size |
| intuition | 15:43 |
<+szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1388 «« paper »» |
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<@NihabaAshi> | Covered ER2 Short @ 735.90 --> + 0.1 | 15:46 |
<rotor> | Long ES @ 87.25 «« paper »» |
<@NihabaAshi> | Trade entry too close to a weak support area | 15:47 |
| Lucky to get a tick |
<+rotor> | Exited 1/3 ES Long @ 89 --> + 1.75 «« paper »» | 15:48 |
<+szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1389.75 --> - 1.75 «« paper »» | 15:49 |
<+rotor> | Exited 1/3 ES Long @ 89.25 --> + 2 «« paper »» |
<+szubaark> | Buys ES @ 1389.75 «« paper »» |
<+rotor> | Exited 1/3 ES Long @ 89.75 --> + 2.5 «« paper »» |
<+szubaark> | late in the day | 15:50 |
<+MK> | Shorts ER2 @ 737 -> Add «« paper »» |
<+Spartan> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 737.9 --> + 2.2 «« paper »» | 15:52 |
<+rickf> | wtg spartan | 15:55 |
<+MK> | Shorts ER2 @ 738.4 -> Add «« paper »» |
<+rickf> | short es 1390.50 paper sm sz | 15:56 |
<+Spartan> | thanks rick, was feeling it today | 15:57 |
| finally |
<+MK> | Shorts ER2 @ 738.5 -> Add «« paper »» | 15:58 |
<+rickf> | exit es 90.50 b/e paper | 15:59 |
| lucky - chart froze :( |
| that last trade shouldn't have even happened. | 16:01 |
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<+szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 1391.50 --> + 1.75 «« paper »» | 16:02 |
<+rickf> | nice szu |
<+szubaark> | thanks.. too late in the day.. overtraded today..oh well |
* szubaark | is now known as szubaark_away | 16:03 |
<+MK> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 737 --> - 2.2 «« paper »» | 16:05 |
<+rickf> | funny thing i was pretty good on my nq entries -- problem was they were only 1, 1.5pt scalps :) |
<+werner> | gn all | 16:14 |
<+rickf> | cya |
<+werner> | :) | 16:15 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Take care all and see all tomorrow | 16:16 |
<+rickf> | seeya |
<T-stop> | tks, cya |
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<+rickf> | bingo | 16:23 |
| gn all - see you tomorrow | 16:25 |
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