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| Session Start: Wed Apr 30 09:33:25 2008Session Ident: #futurestrades |
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<@X> | [NihabaAshi] #FuturesTrades info @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTradesChatRoom.htm and trade log archives @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/RecentTrades.htm |
<Andy> | "generally" positive bias into expected fed rate cut | 09:35 |
<szubaark> | Buys ES @ 1395.25 «« paper »» | 09:36 |
<KN-ES> | Shorts ES @ 1394.75 | 09:38 |
<rickf> | short es 1394.75 paper |
<+KN-ES> | s.l 1 | 09:39 |
| Covered ES Short @ 1394.50 --> + 0.25 | 09:41 |
| Reverse and Enter Long ES @ 1394.50 |
| s.l 1 |
| Exited 3/4 ES Long @ 1395.50 --> + 1 | 09:42 |
<+rickf> | exited TYM8 short +103' | 09:44 |
<+szubaark> | whats TYM8? | 09:45 |
<+KN-ES> | Exited 1/3 ES Long @ 1396.50 --> + 2 |
| out 2 |
<+rickf> | 10 year note futures -- had 'em short for a few days |
<+KN-ES> | h5 |
<+rickf> | wanted to clear out before fed |
<+KN-ES> | Exited 1/3 ES Long @ 1397.50 --> + 3 | 09:46 |
<+szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 1397.25 --> + 2 «« paper »» |
<+KN-ES> | out 2 |
| h3 |
| Exited ES Long @ 1397.25 --> + 2.75 |
| Reverse and Enter Short ES @ 1397.25 |
| Covered 3/4 ES Short @ 1396.25 --> + 1 | 09:47 |
<+rickf> | nice run kn |
<+KN-ES> | s.l 1 |
| thanks rickf |
| Covered ES Short @ 1396.25 --> + 1 |
| Reverse and Enter Long ES @ 1396.25 |
| s.l 1 |
| Exited 3/4 ES Long @ 1397.50 --> + 1.25 | 09:52 |
| Exited ES Long @ 1397.25 --> + 1 |
| Reverse and Enter Short ES @ 1397.25 |
| s.l 1 |
<+szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1396.25 «« paper »» | 09:53 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 722.10 -> small size | 09:54 |
<+KN-ES> | Covered 3/4 ES Short @ 1395.75 --> + 1.5 |
| Covered ES Short @ 1395.75 --> + 1.5 | 09:55 |
| Reverse and Enter Long ES @ 1395.75 |
| s.l 1 |
| Exited ES Long @ 1395.50 --> - 0.25 | 09:56 |
| Reverse and Enter Short ES @ 1395.50 |
| Covered ES Short @ 1394.75 --> + 0.75 | 09:57 |
| Reverse and Enter Long ES @ 1394.75 |
| s.l 1 |
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<@NihabaAshi> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 721.80 --> + 0.3 | 09:59 |
<+rickf> | exited es 1394.75 +0 paper |
<@NihabaAshi> | Getting too jumpy as if some traders think there's a 10am est report when there isn't |
<+szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1395 --> + 1.25 «« paper »» | 10:01 |
| too jumpy |
<+rickf> | short es 1395.25 paper | 10:02 |
<+KN-ES> | Exited 3/4 ES Long @ 1395.75 --> + 1 | 10:03 |
<+szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1395.50 «« paper »» |
<PapaJon> | I think there is more than normal confusion about what the fomc report may or maynot do to the market.... | 10:05 |
<+PapaJon> | Lots of indecision |
<+rickf> | agreed |
<+PapaJon> | no commitment |
<Pepe> | Niha can you lokk here? | 10:06 |
<+Pepe> | sorry, wrong room |
<Bambam-77> | using 94 as a short triger | 10:08 |
<+Bambam-77> | so longs above ss below |
<+KN-ES> | Exited 1/3 ES Long @ 1396.25 --> + 1.5 | 10:10 |
| out 2 |
| h5 |
| Exited 1/3 ES Long @ 1395.75 --> + 1 | 10:13 |
| h3 |
<+rickf> | exit es 1395 +.25 paper |
| done for now -- my head ain't in the game today after 2 bad entries |
| back later | 10:14 |
<+KN-ES> | Exited ES Long @ 1395.5 --> + 0.75 |
| Reverse and Enter Short ES @ 1395.5 |
| s.l 2 | 10:15 |
<+szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1395.75 --> - 0.25 «« paper »» | 10:17 |
| Shorts ES @ 1394.50 «« paper »» |
<+KN-ES> | Covered 3/4 ES Short @ 1394 --> + 1.5 | 10:18 |
| Covered 2/3 ES Short @ 1393.50 --> + 2 | 10:19 |
| h4 |
| Covered ES Short @ 1393.75 --> + 1.75 | 10:20 |
| Reverse and Enter Long ES @ 1393.75 |
| s.l 1 |
| Exited 3/4 ES Long @ 1394.75 --> + 1 | 10:21 |
| Exited 1/3 ES Long @ 1395.25 --> + 1.5 | 10:24 |
| h5 |
| Exited 1/3 ES Long @ 1395 --> + 1.25 | 10:25 |
| h3 |
<A22> | petroleum status report 10:30 | 10:30 |
<+szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1395.75 --> - 1.25 «« paper »» |
| Buys ES @ 1395.75 «« paper »» | 10:31 |
<+KN-ES> | Exited 1/3 ES Long @ 1395.75 --> + 2 |
| h2 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 724.00 -> small size | 10:33 |
| intuition only | 10:34 |
<+KN-ES> | Exited 1/3 ES Long @ 1396.75 --> + 3 |
| h1 |
<+szubaark> | nice KN |
<+KN-ES> | thanks szubaark |
| Exited ES Long @ 1396.50 --> + 2.75 | 10:35 |
| Reverse and Enter Short ES @ 1396.50 |
| s.l 2 |
<+szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 1395.25 --> - 0.5 «« paper »» | 10:47 |
| Shorts ES @ 1395.25 «« paper »» | 10:48 |
<+KN-ES> | Covered 3/4 ES Short @ 1395.50 --> + 1 |
<@NihabaAshi> | ER2 on its own because it doesn't have the support of all key markets except for a few. | 11:04 |
| Exited 2/3 ER2 Long @ 725.30 --> + 1.3 | 11:05 |
<+szubaark> | i got faked out too much by the noise today | 11:07 |
* codehead_afk | is now known as codehead | 11:11 |
<pdays> | Shorts ER2 @ 725.7 | 11:17 |
<+pdays> | Shorts ER2 @ 725.9 -> Add | 11:24 |
| Covered all ER2 Short @ 725.6 --> + 0.4 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Exited Remainder ER2 Long @ 724.30 --> + 0.3 | 11:35 |
<@X> | #FuturesTrades Info ->
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www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTradesChat Room.htm | 12:04 |
<+Pepe> | Guys, what do you expect today? FED 2.00% | 12:07 |
| I think the market need 2.00% Federal Funds Rate. And then market UP, dollar down, Gold and Oil down. | 12:08 |
| :) |
<+rickf> | back | 13:24 |
| looking at the es pa today it's been far more 'fluid' than other fed days. usually these days are boring until 2:15 | 13:32 |
| weird |
| short es 1398.25 paper | 13:47 |
| exit 1/2 es 1387.25 +1 paper | 13:48 |
| exit remainder es 1396 +2.25 paper | 13:57 |
* Spartan_Away | is now known as Spartan | 14:03 |
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<@NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 725.00 -> small size | 14:07 |
<+rickf> | hrmmm | 14:08 |
<@NihabaAshi> | I didn't expect to get a fill so soon :) |
<+rickf> | :) | 14:09 |
<@NihabaAshi> | tight trailing stop now...lets see what happens. | 14:10 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Worst...a +0.1 tick profit |
<+rickf> | :( | 14:11 |
<+KN-ES> | Long ES @ 1401.00 |
| nop |
| Shorts ES @ 1401 | 14:12 |
<+szubaark> | Kiss 1404 then send it Screaming down? LOL |
<@NihabaAshi> | Exited ER2 Long @ 725.10 --> + 0.1 |
| Now I sit and watch for awhile | 14:13 |
<pat255> | that is better KN ... |
<+rickf> | same here - waiting for the "wave effect" for possible setup |
<+KN-ES> | scale in entries |
| from 1 to 12 |
<+szubaark> | then again it might just go Flat after announcment | 14:15 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Any rate surprise that's not a 1/4 cut...should produce a strong parabolic price movement |
<+KN-ES> | Shorts ES @ 1402 -> Add |
<+rickf> | short at 1399 paper | 14:16 |
<+szubaark> | 1404 kissed |
<+KN-ES> | didnt get filled |
<@NihabaAshi> | .25 cut announced |
<+KN-ES> | Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1396 --> + 6 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 723.00 -> small size | 14:17 |
<+KN-ES> | Covered 1/4 ES Short @ 1399 --> + 2 |
<+rickf> | exit 96.50 3.5 paper |
<+KN-ES> | Covered ES Short @ 1401.00 --> 0 |
| Reverse and Enter Long ES @ 1401.00 |
<@NihabaAshi> | intuition only |
<+KN-ES> | Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 1403 --> + 2 |
<+rickf> | long 1401.50 |
| paper | 14:18 |
<+KN-ES> | Exited ES Long @ 1403 --> + 2 |
| Reverse and Enter Short ES @ 1403 |
<+rickf> | exit es 1406 +5.5 paper |
<+KN-ES> | Shorts ES @ 1405 -> Add |
<+szubaark> | first reaction up, now lest see if they whack it down |
<+rickf> | short 1404 paper |
<+KN-ES> | sl. 12 |
<@NihabaAshi> | tighting up my stops again |
<+KN-ES> | brb | 14:19 |
<@NihabaAshi> | exit stop raised ER2 @ 724.00 |
<+rickf> | exit 1403.75 paper |
| not getting greedy |
<@NihabaAshi> | EER2 pausing temporaily | 14:20 |
| That's a sign its' going to pop again... |
| Hopefully up and not down |
<+KN-ES> | Shorts ES @ 1405 |
| add |
<@NihabaAshi> | volatility contracting fast |
<+szubaark> | and down she goes | 14:21 |
<+rickf> | wow yeah, niha |
<+KN-ES> | Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1402 --> + 3 |
<+rickf> | short es 1402.25 paper | 14:22 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Trailing Stop Hit ER2 @ 724.00 --> + 1 |
<+rickf> | exit 1/2 es 98.25 + 4 paper | 14:23 |
<@NihabaAshi> | buy limit to enter long ER2 @ 722.00 | 14:24 |
| Long ER2 @ 722.00 |
<+rickf> | exit remainder es 1398 +4.25 paper | 14:25 |
| whew :) | 14:26 |
<+KN-ES> | nice trade rickf |
<+rickf> | thx kn -- best series i've done in a while |
<+KN-ES> | Covered 1/4 ES Short @ 1400 --> + 5 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Exited 2/3 ER2 Long @ 724.30 --> + 2.3 |
<+rickf> | you're on fire, per usual :) | 14:27 |
<@NihabaAshi> | exit stop raised ER2 @ 722.10 |
| exit stop raised ER2 @ 722.50 | 14:29 |
<+rickf> | nice niha |
<@NihabaAshi> | Trying to give this trade some room to breadth |
| :( |
| Trailing Stop Hit ER2 @ 722.50 --> + 0.5 |
<+szubaark> | setting up for next Volatility spike | 14:30 |
<@NihabaAshi> | 1 contract only for the remainder of the trading day |
<+rickf> | es volatility is tight |
| yep |
<+Spartan> | Long ER2 @ 1403 -> small size «« paper »» | 14:32 |
<+rickf> | i went to the 1m chart at 2:14 -- forgot how noisy it can be after trading off 3m for the past month or two. :( |
| but helpful on fed days |
<@NihabaAshi> | Price action trying hard to become bullish |
| It's got support in place around 723.80 | 14:33 |
| Meant 723.80 - 723.10 |
<+szubaark> | retracing the last Red WRB | 14:34 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 723.50 -> small size | 14:35 |
<+rickf> | short es 1401.75 paper small sz |
<@NihabaAshi> | intuition only and 1 contract only |
<+KN-ES> | vol dropping....... | 14:36 |
| most likely end of upside run |
<@NihabaAshi> | volatility declining more |
<+KN-ES> | vol less then 4k | 14:37 |
| not a good news |
<+szubaark> | lots of noise now, just wait and see and Wide Stops |
<+KN-ES> | for either side |
<+rickf> | exit es 1401 +.75 paper |
| yep - folks still repositioning i guess |
<@NihabaAshi> | ER2 probing that lower support area of 723.10 |
| Exited ER2 Long @ 722.80 --> - 0.7 | 14:40 |
<+KN-ES> | anyone watcing uefa cup soccer........... not a good time for me to trade today | 14:41 |
| well at this moment, |
<+szubaark> | KN u watching TV and trading at same time? i coudnt do that, i need Silence | 14:42 |
<+KN-ES> | one thing for sure, it may go down or may not go down BUT most likely doesnt have enough vol to break out upside |
<@NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 723.10 -> small size |
<+KN-ES> | hahaha |
| its liverpool |
| i dont think i will miss it for anything :) |
<+szubaark> | You going against Pros that watch EVERY Tick | 14:43 |
<+KN-ES> | i have covered my stop loss |
| already with first 2 trades |
| and otu 3/4th of this trade :) | 14:44 |
<+rickf> | i turned the tv off when trading -- even on fed days, it gets too distracting |
<@NihabaAshi> | Exited ER2 Long @ 724.30 --> + 1.2 |
<+KN-ES> | i am trying to hold onto my trade while trying not to miss a sec of the game |
<+szubaark> | Ive heard a lot of Pros do Meditation, Yoga etc before EACH Opening day | 14:45 |
<+KN-ES> | and i got back from NY just and just for this match |
| :) |
<+rickf> | szu - i hit the gym at 11 each day --- figure that will ensure i don't trade during my 'bad' periods :) | 14:46 |
| clears my head, i can run errands after, do other work, and then come back for the pm session |
<+szubaark> | meanwhile, Price doing nothing | 14:48 |
<+KN-ES> | :) |
| dont know about yoga or gym...........just start when i feel like getting up | 14:49 |
<+szubaark> | that 1400 is defended on ES,,cant go thru it |
<+KN-ES> | well, dont have enough vol at this moment to break out upside either | 14:50 |
| so playing short should be the safe game here |
<+szubaark> | "Volume" "Volatility", whatever u wanna call it. can come in at any milli-second |
<+KN-ES> | Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1399 --> + 6 |
| out 2 |
| not 1/3 | 14:51 |
| we will see 89.50 sometime today, i guess |
| tp1 98 (+7) tp2 97 (+8) tp3 96 (+9) tp4 95 (+10) tp5 94 (+11) tp6 93 (+12) | 14:54 |
<+rickf> | short es 1398.75 paper sm sz |
<+szubaark> | nice KN |
<+KN-ES> | Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1398 --> + 7 |
<+Spartan> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 1397 --> - 6 «« paper »» |
<+KN-ES> | Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1397 --> + 8 |
| Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1396 --> + 9 | 14:55 |
<+rickf> | exit 1/2 es short 95.50 |
| +3,25 paper |
<+KN-ES> | and will hold 2 after tp6 |
<+rickf> | gahd |
<+KN-ES> | need to go back to the game |
| Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1395 --> + 10 |
<+rickf> | vn |
<@NihabaAshi> | nice |
<lumenPharmer> | wtg kn |
<+KN-ES> | thanks | 14:56 |
<+szubaark> | Nice 10pt KN |
<+rickf> | that drop happened right as i got filled |
<+KN-ES> | Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1394 --> + 11 | 14:59 |
| all 1 contracts.......not 1/3 |
| Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1393 --> + 12 | 15:00 |
| h 2 |
| tp1 89.50 |
| tp2 85.75 |
<+codehead> | long 715.90 ER <paper> | 15:01 |
<+KN-ES> | s.l 1404 (+1.00) |
<+szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1392 --> + 3.25 «« paper »» | 15:02 |
<+codehead> | exit half ER 716.90 <paper> |
| +1 |
<robert> | wtg KN |
<+rickf> | exit 1/2 es 1393 +5,75 paper |
<+KN-ES> | cool | 15:03 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 715.50 -> small size | 15:04 |
<+szubaark> | again, tough FOMC day for me, but made it Profitible after breaking rules :( |
<@NihabaAshi> | intuition only | 15:05 |
| Covered ER2 Short @ 716.20 --> - 0.7 | 15:09 |
<+rickf> | exit 1/2 es 1392 +6,75 | 15:10 |
| paper |
<+codehead> | exit remainder ER +1.2 <paper> so i can get back to work | 15:11 |
| but potential target of 720.2, maybe not today |
<@NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 715.50 -> small size | 15:12 |
<+rickf> | exit es remainder 1388.50 +10.25 paper ! |
<+codehead> | long ER 714.80 <paper> |
| exit ER +1 <paper> |
| long ER 713.60 <paper> | 15:13 |
<+KN-ES> | Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1385 --> + 20 | 15:14 |
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<+codehead> | add ER 712.60 <paper> |
<+KN-ES> | h1 |
<+rickf> | vn |
<+KN-ES> | :) | 15:15 |
| thanks |
| tp 1380+- |
<@NihabaAshi> | Covered ER2 Short @ 712.80 --> + 2.7 |
<+KN-ES> | sl 1395 (+10.00) | 15:17 |
<+codehead> | exit add ER +1 <paper> |
| exit other +.70 <paper> |
<+KN-ES> | huge vol | 15:19 |
<@NihabaAshi> | weak support here for ER2 | 15:20 |
<+codehead> | 718.5 possible bounce target |
<+KN-ES> | 55k vol |
<+rickf> | done for day - going to sit and watch now |
<+KN-ES> | or...... taking profit |
<@NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 714.90 -> small size | 15:21 |
| I'm losing my patience...ER2 should have tested 716.00 by now | 15:26 |
| volatility contracting fast | 15:27 |
| volatility spike | 15:28 |
| Exited ER2 Long @ 713.20 --> - 1.7 | 15:29 |
| Shorts ER2 @ 713.00 -> small size | 15:30 |
| Covered ER2 Short @ 712.90 --> + 0.1 | 15:32 |
<+codehead> | long ER 712.80 <paper> |
| typed it in wrong room |
| exit +1 <paper> |
<@NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 714.00 -> small size |
| Lets see if I can geet that 716.00 price area now | 15:35 |
| It shook me out good once...lets see if it can do it again. |
| volatility contracting | 15:36 |
| tightning up trailing stop | 15:37 |
| exit stop raised ER2 @ 714.20 |
| Trailing Stop Hit ER2 @ 714.20 --> + 0.2 | 15:40 |
| We're now in that rush hour traffic zone |
| Long ER2 @ 714.00 -> small size | 15:42 |
| One try at it...last trade of the day. |
| exit stop raised ER2 @ 714.20 | 15:43 |
| Exited ER2 Long @ 716.60 --> + 2.6 | 15:45 |
| Got 6 ticks more than plan... | 15:46 |
| I'm done for the day |
<+lumenPharmer> | nice niha | 15:48 |
<+rickf> | least you ended on a profit :) |
| good way to finish |
<@NihabaAshi> | Yeah...took a few trades more than I wanted because that price zone off the lows was big | 15:50 |
| Around 2 points |
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