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April 13th Friday 2007 Trade Log
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Tough trading day and I took it easy at the wrong time of the day when a pattern signal appeared that would have made me profitable for the trading day.
Regardless, I'm still feeling a little mentally out of the game (tired) and will take it easy the next few trading days next week because of such.
Commentary by M.A. Perry (a.k.a. NihabaAshi)
intradaystrategies@yahoo.comNote: Each month there are a few trading days that we consider to produce big price movement as the result of other key trading instruments in its own market or within other markets (intermarket analysis).
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Session Start: Fri Apr 13 09:30:05 2007Session Ident: #futurestrades * Now talking in #futurestrades 09:30 <X> [NihabaAshi] #FuturesTrades info @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTradesChatRoom.htm and trade log archives @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/RecentTrades.htm <PapaJon> gm all 09:31 <NihabaAshi> Shorts ER2 @ 821.00 -> medium size 09:32 Ooops...that's a Long position. Long ER2 @ 821.00 -> medium size <venedom> gm 09:33 <Brutus> OIL FUTURES: Nymex Crude Hovers Around $64; RBOB At 8-Mo High 09:38 1000/1400 Apr Reuters/Univ Mich Index, prelim 88.0 88.4 09:39 <NihabaAshi> Exited ER2 Long @ 819.10 --> - 1.9 Reverse and Enter Short ER2 @ 819.10 <Brutus> 1300/1700 Dallas Fed Pres Fisher speaks on 09:40 "Globalizing the Knowledge Economy" in Houston <X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for realtime trade posting by traders of Emini Futures (ER2, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex Derivatives (DAX, ESTX50), Euronext Futures (FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM) and Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, QQQQ, SPY) 09:43 <NihabaAshi> :( 09:44 <szubaark> Shorts NQ @ 1823.75 «« paper »» 09:45 <NihabaAshi> Covered all ER2 Short @ 818.80 --> + 0.3 09:47 Long ER2 @ 819.30 -> large size <pat255> dang chop here 09:53 <NihabaAshi> Long ER2 @ 817.80 -> Add 09:55 Very close to stopping me out :( <szubaark> Covered all Short NQ at 1824 --> - 0.25 «« paper »» 09:58 Buys NQ @ 1823.75 «« paper »» Exited all Long NQ at 1820.50 --> - 3.25 «« paper »» 10:00 Shorts NQ @ 1820.50 «« paper »» <NihabaAshi> Exited all ER2 Long @ 817.00 --> - 3.1 <pat255> oh man :( <NihabaAshi> Shorts ER2 @ 817.00 -> large size 10:03 * Nana_CO ----[ Covers ER2 @ 816.6 +1.1 held from yesterday ]---- Trading Edge: Trading Strategies -> These strategies will reveal and explain specific strategies from entry to exit that exploit inefficiencies in the price action of your trading instrument for profits in the following trading instruments: Emini Index Futures (ER2, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex Index Derivatives (DAX, ESTX50), Euronext Index Futures (FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Energy Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Forex Currencies (EurUsd, EurYen, UsdCdn), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, OIH, IWM, QQQQ, SPY, XLE) and Hang Seng Index Futures (HSI) <NihabaAshi> Shallow WRB pt level below... Shorts ER2 @ 817.30 -> Add 10:06 <szubaark> need Patience as its Slowly pushing lower 10:07 <Brutus> Long ES @ 1454.5 «« paper »» Exited ES Long @ 1454.25 --> - 0.25 «« paper »» <NihabaAshi> Covered 1/2 ER2 Short @ 816.40 --> + 0.9 10:09 <szubaark> Covered all Short NQ at 1817.75 --> + 2.75 «« paper »» <NihabaAshi> ER2 volatility declining...I'm expecting a volatility spike here soon. 10:13 Doesn't look like it's going to give me my WRB pt level :( <pat255> but looks like way is down .. 10:15 any up move is going to be S <eminitrader> Long ES @ 1453 <NihabaAshi> There's some S/r zone...too far above and too far below :( Covered Remainder ER2 Short @ 816.50 --> + 0.5 10:17 :( <Brutus> Long ES @ 1452.5 «« paper »» <les> Shorts ER2 @ 816.1 10:19 <NihabaAshi> Long ER2 @ 816.40 -> medium size 10:20 <Brutus> exit stop set ES @ 1452.5 «« paper »» 10:22 <les> Covered all ER2 Short @ 816.7 --> - 0.6 10:24 <NihabaAshi> Exited all ER2 Long @ 817.10 --> + 0.7 That little bounce upwards formed an s/r zone. Hopefully I can use it later on in the trading day. <RussellDaytrade> possible 813.54 10:27 i added a couple short trades this am in the s/o acct, closed 'em too early as usual, up 360, not being aggressive in sizing, long one now in the l/s acct 10:29 <eminitrader> Exited ES Long @ 1455.25 --> + 2.25 10:37 Reverse and Enter Short ES @ 1455.25 <szubaark> Shorts NQ @ 1821 «« paper »» <Brutus> Exited all ES Long @ 1455.75 --> + 3.25 «« paper »» <NihabaAshi> Long ER2 @ 818.40 -> large size 10:38 <RussellDaytrade> Long ER2 @ 816.7 «« paper »» Exited all ER2 Long @ 818.2 --> + 1.5 «« paper »» <eminitrader> Shorts ES @ 1457 -> Add 10:39 <Brutus> Was thinking about 1458 but wanted to get long again on the pullback :( <RussellDaytrade> it just spiked into my pricetime projection at 819.4...pretty close, and 15 minutes early <NihabaAshi> Exited all ER2 Long @ 819.10 --> + 0.7 10:42 <Brutus> shorting the next spike 1459.5 10:43 <NihabaAshi> Shorts ER2 @ 819.20 -> medium size 10:44 <venedom> Shorts ER2 @ 819.10 10:45 <Brutus> Long ES @ 1456.25 «« paper »» 10:46 exit stop set ES @ 1455.5 «« paper »» 10:47 <NihabaAshi> Covered all ER2 Short @ 818.80 --> + 0.4 <Brutus> Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 1457.25 --> + 1 «« paper »» 10:48 <venedom> Shorts ER2 @ 819.20 -> Add <NihabaAshi> Shorts ER2 @ 819.00 -> small size 10:49 <Brutus> exit stop raised ES @ 1456.25 «« paper »» Exited all ES Long @ 1456.25 --> 0 «« paper »» <NihabaAshi> position size error and I wanted 3x the size :( <pat255> gl niha loaded.. 10:50 <NihabaAshi> I'm light...wish I wa loaded...looking for a only a few ticks. <pat255> k.. 10:51 <NihabaAshi> Resistance is weakening :( ER2 volatility is declining fast...I'm expecting a volatility spike here soon. 10:52 <venedom> down I hope :) 10:53 <NihabaAshi> Mee too. <szubaark> same here.. down would put me ++ for day and that would be good way to start the weekend :)) <Brutus> Long ES @ 1456.25 «« paper »» exit stop set ES @ 1455.5 «« paper »» 10:54 Exited ES Long @ 1455.5 --> - 0.75 «« paper »» <NihabaAshi> Covered all ER2 Short @ 818.50 --> + 0.5 <X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for realtime trade posting by traders of Emini Futures (ER2, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex Derivatives (DAX, ESTX50), Euronext Futures (FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM) and Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, QQQQ, SPY) 10:55 <eminitrader> Covered all ES Short @ 1455.75 --> + 0.75 10:57 no thats abt a tick on the avg <venedom> gooooooooooooooooooo 10:58 <eminitrader> 2 ticks <venedom> we need to break 40 10:59 Covered all ER2 Short @ 819.20 --> - 0.1 11:01 <NihabaAshi> Shorts ER2 @ 818.90 -> large size 11:08 I don't like how fast the volatility changed after my entry... 11:09 Looking to dump this. <eminitrader> Shorts ES @ 1457 11:10 <NihabaAshi> Covered all ER2 Short @ 818.80 --> + 0.1 <Brutus> Dax closes at new highs 11:31 within next 15mins looking for a climatic type spike 11:33 <RussellDaytrade> i'm looking for 821.46 11:37 give or take .01 11:38 over next hour and a half <szubaark> exit stop set NQ @ 1824 «« paper »» 11:40 <Brutus> looking more like accumulation 11:48 cancelled all open limit orders «« paper »» 11:49 <szubaark> Covered all Short NQ at 1824 --> - 3 «« paper »» 11:50 <pat255> looks like this slow mkt ...dont S this up creep..dang 11:51 <venedom> c u monday all have a ice weekend 11:52 nice <pat255> later.. <szubaark> yeah ES new High NQ still lower high.. just a bunch of mixed signals.. time to go do something else * szubaark is now known as szubaark_away <Brutus> London FTSE 100 +0.72 Frankfurt Xetra DAX +0.97 Paris CAC40 +0.70 All % 11:54 Nymex To Launch Uranium Futures Contract - should have some volatility 11:56 Review of U.S. Economic Data for Friday, April 13th 11:57 <X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for realtime trade posting by traders of Emini Futures (ER2, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex Derivatives (DAX, ESTX50), Euronext Futures (FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM) and Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, QQQQ, SPY) 12:04 <Brutus> Shorts ES @ 1458 «« paper »» 12:06 exit stop set ES @ 1459.25 «« paper »» * Nana_CO ----[ Shorts ER2 @ 820.4 ]---- 12:08 ----[ Covers 819.3 @ +1.1 ]---- 12:19 <eminitrader> Covered all ES Short @ 1457 --> 0 12:24 <NihabaAshi> Shorts ER2 @ 819.40 -> medium size 12:32 Volatility dead since 1045am es. 12:33 <pat255> yes <NihabaAshi> I see a wedge in a key market breadth and declining volatility... 12:41 I'm expecting a volatility spike here soon. 12:42 If it goes against me...I'm just going to dump it and not reverse into the volatility burst considering volatility looks ill. Covered all ER2 Short @ 820.00 --> - 0.6 12:55 That's what I call an "anemic trade" :( 12:56 <Brutus> Actual trade taken short 1458.5 stop 1459.25 12:58 <NihabaAshi> Shorts ER2 @ 820.20 -> large size If the volatility can start picking up around without this "creeper" price action... 12:59 I'll start loading the boat. <Brutus> 1300/1700 Dallas Fed Pres Fisher 13:00 <NihabaAshi> Brutus...he's speaking now ??? Geesh...I don't have that on any of my key calendars :( <Brutus> not seen any comments yet <NihabaAshi> Maybe he's attending a meeting but not schedule to speak ??? 13:01 I'm going to take a chance and stay in this trade even though its reached my WRB pt level (I should be covering). 13:05 I have some market internals support for my Short now...reason why I'm going to be aggressive and try for a WRB pt2 exit instead of the pt1 that occurred at 819.80 13:06 Covered 2/3 ER2 Short @ 819.40 --> + 0.8 13:08 <Brutus> If it gets going I'm going to stay for an hour <NihabaAshi> I caught a WRB pt2 but it sure was a small WRB :( 13:09 Market is going some sort'uv news event based upon its price action the last 15 mins. 13:11 Whatever it is...its trying to decide if its important. I still have the market internals supporting my Short remainders. 13:12 Reason why I'm still holding those remainders. <Brutus> she's gonna break captain :) <NihabaAshi> :) 13:13 Hope there's enough life boats. I'm looking for life boat # 819.00 13:14 <RussellDaytrade> i have approx 5-7 minutes remaining on my 821.46 projection. that last leg did not extend it into the target, as i expected it to. this one now may be its last opportunity. in short, it appears to me to be losing relative strength, and, the fact it is not extending into my target also indicxates that loss of strenght just a couple minutes now, as i type slow <Brutus> oh yeah 13:15 <NihabaAshi> A few more ticks and its another WRB level. <X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for realtime trade posting by traders of Emini Futures (ER2, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex Derivatives (DAX, ESTX50), Euronext Futures (FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM) and Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, QQQQ, SPY) 13:16 <NihabaAshi> No WRB formation at the 819.00 price area :( 13:18 Market internals no longer supporting my Short position. 13:19 Price action should be back up to 820.00 by now... 13:24 It's "anemic" again and hopefully it works in my favor this time in comparison to the prior trade that went against me via the same type of price action. <RussellDaytrade> possible move to 815.59 13:25 <NihabaAshi> ER2 volatility has declined dramatically... 13:27 I'm expecting another volatility spike here soon. <Brutus> exit stop set ES @ 1459 «« paper »» <RussellDaytrade> it doesn't 'feel' like it will extend as low as 815.6 today, but, it is the er 13:28 <NihabaAshi> Covered Remainder ER2 Short @ 819.90 --> + 0.3 13:33 <Brutus> Covered ES Short @ 1459.25 --> - 1.25 «« paper »» 13:34 <NihabaAshi> Shorts ER2 @ 820.10 -> medium size I think that was an exhaustion spike I shorted... 13:39 Covered my positon so I can take a break from trading to return later around 2:15pm est and hopefully there's some good volatility new s/r zones to exploit. 13:41 Ooops... Covered all ER2 Short @ 819.90 --> + 0.2 Be back later. * NihabaAshi is now known as NihabaAshi_away <RussellDaytrade> Shorts ER2 @ 820.6 «« paper »» 14:10 late post, got tired of waiting for my sell to trigger at 821.3, initiated one 'early', just in scase it didn't extend..looking promising to dnside now 14:11 in the er, anyhow 14:12 * NihabaAshi_away is now known as NihabaAshi 14:23 <NihabaAshi> Shorts ER2 @ 819.80 -> large size 14:26 <X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for realtime trade posting by traders of Emini Futures (ER2, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex Derivatives (DAX, ESTX50), Euronext Futures (FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM) and Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, QQQQ, SPY) 14:28 <NihabaAshi> Shorts ER2 @ 820.30 -> Add <RussellDaytrade> Covered all ER2 Short @ 819.7 --> + 0.9 «« paper »» 14:32 Shorts ER2 @ 820 «« paper »» both late posts sold it on the way back up, not on the decline <NihabaAshi> Geesh :( 14:34 Tough trade especially since the Short has a lot of support. 14:35 <RussellDaytrade> seems like 'narmally' a drop may already be underway by now 14:37 <NihabaAshi> :( Just lost my support. Volatility declining...expecting a volatility spike here soon. 14:39 <RussellDaytrade> Covered all ER2 Short @ 820.2 --> - 0.2 «« paper »» 14:41 <NihabaAshi> Shorts ER2 @ 820.60 -> Add 14:42 Got my support back. 14:43 Covered ER2 Short @ 821.00 --> - 1.2 14:45 Reverse and Enter Long ER2 @ 821.00 <RussellDaytrade> well look who's fianlly fkn comin thru, late fkn bstrds Shorts ER2 @ 821.3 «« paper »» 14:46 * Nana_CO ----[ Shorts ER2 @ 821.4 ]---- <NihabaAshi> Volatility decided to show up...a little late in my opinion unless this sucker goes to 823.00 for me to get me close to being profitable. Have no choice but to hold especially with the volatility increasing. 14:47 <RussellDaytrade> waht a long day, another hour and a half still remaining 14:48 new short in the l/s at 822.1 <NihabaAshi> Too bad I wasn't fast enough to ADD some contracts at around 821.50 to load the boat for me. 14:50 Had I gotten that...all I would need is a 823.00 to be in the green for the day. <Brutus> 1447 Fisher: Fed Wants To Get Inflation Down From Too High Level 14:51 <NihabaAshi> Fisher actually speaking at that meeting... 14:52 Brutus...what source do you have. I don't have it on any of my alerts for such a speech. 14:53 <Brutus> DJ news <NihabaAshi> Thanks ER2 made a new high for April. 14:54 Looks like its trying to pick off my trailing stop :( http://www.reuters.com/article/bondsNews /idUSWAT00732920070413 14:58 That's a bullish statement from the Dallas Fed President Fisher. 14:59 Those comments actually occurred around 1:30pm est. Take a look at the Eminis charts around 1:30pm est. 15:00 <Brutus> Yep, I missed the headlines then as well 15:01 <NihabaAshi> 90% of the time I can exploit the FED info when I'm aware its coming. Today I was blind sided and didn't see it coming :( 15:02 * Nana_CO ----[ Shorts ER2 @ 822.7 Add ]---- 15:12 <Nana_CO> 78% retracement back to Feb 22 high <NihabaAshi> Exited all ER2 Long @ 822.40 --> + 3.2 15:13 That's incorrect... Should have shown +1.4 per contract. Brutus...I truly appreciate you "alerting" the room here about the FED speech. 15:14 <Brutus> np <NihabaAshi> This is an excellent example of why I started #FuturesTrades... More eyes on the market. Without that info when the volatility showed up... 15:15 I most likely would have exited the position without reversing it. Long ER2 @ 822.60 -> medium size 15:19 Couldn't get back in at 822.40 :( Exited ER2 Long @ 822.40 --> - 0.2 15:21 Reverse and Enter Short ER2 @ 822.40 <RussellDaytrade> closed the 822.1 at 822.2 15:22 had a good week, i'm tired, don't feel like fighting this one, will protect the days earlier pfts 15:24 <NihabaAshi> Yeah...I'm slowly getting into that frame of mind to just call it a day and stop chipping away at the losses to get green for the day. 15:25 It's been a good week of profits for me too but not where I'm normally at. Reminder -> #FuturesTrades chat room trade logs are posted @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/RecentTrad es.htm (logs will be updated tonight by 9pm est to current) 15:28 I know some in here don't maintain there own "archived logs". <RussellDaytrade> gonna close other open short on this initial drop, if it extends below 822 a little 15:30 Sponsor: <NihabaAshi> Volatility is gone again :( 15:32 Covered all ER2 Short @ 822.30 --> + 0.1 15:35 <Brutus> Monday 0830/1230 Mar Retail & Food Sales +0.1% 15:38 0830/1230 Mar Retail & Food Sales, ex-autos -0.1% 0830/1230 Apr NY Fed Mfg Index 1.85 0845/1245 Philadelphia Fed Pres Plosser speaks at trade conference in Philadelphia If ES gaps up its in DT territory <NihabaAshi> Long ER2 @ 822.30 -> large size <Brutus> Should have a good pullback from that level prior to pierceing it, maybe:) 15:39 <X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for realtime trade posting by traders of Emini Futures (ER2, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex Derivatives (DAX, ESTX50), Euronext Futures (FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM) and Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, QQQQ, SPY) 15:40 <NihabaAshi> I thought for sure it was going to allow me to cover that Short at a 821.70 level but it didn't happen after it found some support at the 822.10 price area. <RussellDaytrade> the number 835 is popping into my htoughts today,about several times thus far 15:41 <NihabaAshi> I'm looking for a WRB around the 823.00 price area. ER2 must be close to its February highs...within striking distance...maybe next week ??? 15:44 <Brutus> http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/intchar t/frames/main.asp?time=6&freq=1&compidx= aaaaa:0&comp=NO_SYMBOL_CHOSEN&ma=6&maval =10&uf=32&lf=268435456&lf2=2&lf3=4&type= 4&style=320&size=4&sid=0&o_symb=rut&star tdate=&enddate=&show=&symb=rut 15:46 <NihabaAshi> Exited Remainder ER2 Long @ 822.40 --> + 0.1 15:47 some at 822.50 <RussellDaytrade> the bulls are having fun just holding mkt up in here, not giving it any breathing room to the dnside 15:50 <NihabaAshi> Yep...lots of teasing in the range up here. 15:51 Long ER2 @ 823.10 -> large size Tough to stay ahead of it. Exited all ER2 Long @ 823.60 --> + 0.5 15:54 <Brutus> Dax FTSE ASX all closing on all time highs will prolly continue monday AM lifitng globex <RussellDaytrade> the way it feels i expect further gains over next couple days, barring any event ytpe calamity, which may in fact be a short-lived and fleeting buying opp, if it ain't sustainbly dire type news, and thats if it occurs at all. <NihabaAshi> Need 8 lousy ticks to get profitable for the day. 15:55 Will wait for the stocks to close at 4pm est. 15:56 Unless there's another spurt upwasrds to Short into. 15:57 <Brutus> http://custom.marketwatch.com/custom/tda meritrade-com/html-story.asp?guid={4d078 ed3-8b40-4f43-be68-d4b355c0c4a0} 15:58 link work? <NihabaAshi> Yes <RussellDaytrade> y <NihabaAshi> Long ER2 @ 824.00 -> large size 15:59 Puuuushhhh.... 16:00 <RussellDaytrade> short agin, too late in day to pierce 825 16:01 hopefully! <wizardofrijnsaterwou> have a nice weekend everybody 16:02 <NihabaAshi> Exited 1/2 ER2 Long @ 824.80 --> + 0.8 16:04 tic toc tic toc tic toc... 16:05 * Fleneer is now known as Flensaway 16:10 <NihabaAshi> Looking for exits around 4:13 especially since its Friday 13th... 16:11 joke. <RussellDaytrade> exited 824.5, flatted it still short 821.3, gave up most pfts in that acct, only short one, can manage that size 16:12 good action today...bulls won pulling away! 16:13 salright, we'll get 'em back in a couple days <NihabaAshi> Exited all ER2 Long @ 824.50 --> + 0.5 16:14 Came up a little short at the end but had a good fight until the end... 16:15 Glad I stuck with it and glad I finally tuned into the Fed Fisher info. Take care all, have a good and safe weekend. * NihabaAshi is now known as NihabaAshi_away 16:16 * DisconnectedSession Close: Fri Apr 13 16:26:53 2007 16:26 Sponsor:
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