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#FuturesTrades March 2nd Friday 2007 Trade Log

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Tough trading day because of my incorrect volatility analysis for part of the trading day.

I also had some data problems in the p.m. trading session to forced me to switch to use my laptop next to my backup system (desktop with multiple monitors).

Other than that, I expect a very slow start in the markets next week as it digest what happen last week as traders try to be better prepared to exploit the volatility when volatility shows up again.

Today's results (real money and simulator trading) shown above are that of NihabaAshi only. To see his total accumulated points for the month of March...click here. To see results for the months of 2007 and prior years...click here.

Commentary by M.A. Perry (a.k.a. NihabaAshi)  
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Session Start: Fri Mar 02 09:18:06 2007Session Ident: #futurestrades
* Now talking in #futurestrades09:18
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<eminitrader> cld see a strong downtrend day anytime soon ...
<pat255> agree em ..buyers dont like that
<eminitrader> true pat
<pat255> gm niha
<RussellDaytrade> yep, i am looking (and hoping) for a 'bear-mkt-type rally. agree bigger trend is now down, for a while, perhaps months.09:19

Exited 1/4 ER2 Long @ 786.5 --> + 3 «« paper »» 09:20
<NihabaAshi> Good morning all.
<eminitrader> still think long term at least some time this yr ES will test 1550 area09:21
<werner> gm niha em ,all09:22
<PapaJon> gm all
<RussellDaytrade> gm Niha. any bias from your perspective this am?
<pat255> yes em ..global economy lot of slaves to be hired to work @ $1 /hr all over the place

world & make widgets for the rich in other places ..
<RussellDaytrade> lets hope we don't get on teh other end of that equation.09:24
<pat255> rofl very true RD..
<RussellDaytrade>  Exited 1/4 ER2 Long @ 788 --> + 1.7 «« paper »» 09:26
now l 3 ap near 78709:27
still wanna be long, freeing up in case it drops again09:28
<jperl> ER2 VWAP data....09:30

yesterday: 787.98

1 week: 803.71

1 month: 811.82

1 year: 749.21
<eminitrader>  Shorts ES @ 1404.50 09:31
Shorts ES @ 1400.50 09:32
sorry
<NihabaAshi>  Shorts ER2 @ 787.60 -> large size 09:33
<RussellDaytrade>  Long ER2 @ 786.7 -> Add «« paper »» 09:34
<eminitrader>  Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1398.50 --> + 2
<NihabaAshi>  Covered all ER2 Short @ 785.40 --> + 2.2 09:35
   
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<RussellDaytrade>  Long ER2 @ 785.1 -> Add «« paper »»
<eminitrader>  Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1399.50 --> + 1 09:36
<RussellDaytrade>  Exited 1/4 ER2 Long @ 787.5 --> + 2.4 «« paper »»
<eminitrader>  Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1400.50 --> 0 09:37
<NihabaAshi>  Long ER2 @ 789.60 -> large size
<RussellDaytrade>  Exited 1/4 ER2 Long @ 789.5 --> + 3.2 «« paper »»
now long 3 again.09:38
lowered ap by a couple bucks, to approx 78509:39
Long ER2 @ 786.4 -> Add «« paper »»
<NihabaAshi>  Exited ER2 Long @ 786.60 --> - 3 09:40

Reverse and Enter Short ER2 @ 786.60
<eminitrader>  Long ES @ 1399.50
Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 1402 --> + 2.5 09:41
<RussellDaytrade> t on that last buy is 90.5
<NihabaAshi>  Covered ER2 Short @ 787.50 --> - 0.9
Reverse and Enter Long ER2 @ 787.50
<RussellDaytrade> long 409:42

ap near785.4 or so
<NihabaAshi>  Exited all ER2 Long @ 788.00 --> + 0.5 09:43
<eminitrader>  Exited Remainder ES Long @ 1402 --> + 2.5
<RussellDaytrade>  Long ER2 @ 786.2 -> Add «« paper »» 09:48
<NihabaAshi>  Shorts ER2 @ 786.10 -> large size

Covered all ER2 Short @ 785.00 --> + 1.1 09:50
<ItalianSharp> nice price action today...looks like the market has a clear direction...lol09:53
<szubaark>  exit stop set NQ @ 1752 «« paper »» 09:54
<NihabaAshi>  Shorts ER2 @ 785.40 -> large size
<szubaark>  exit stop set NQ @ 1752 «« paper »» 09:55

Im making setting my Stops Priority after that disaster -16 Whacker on Wendesday. Told me how Impulsive I really am :(09:56
<RussellDaytrade>  Long ER2 @ 785 -> Add «« paper »»
<szubaark>  Exited all Long NQ at 1747.50 --> + 20.5 «« paper »»

Shorts NQ @ 1752 «« paper »» 09:57

Covered all Short NQ at 1747.50 --> + 4.5 «« paper »»
<eminitrader> nice szu..
<szubaark> thanx.. getting out before the 10AM Report
<eminitrader>  Long ES @ 1399 09:58
Exited all ES Long @ 1398 --> - 1 10:00
<pat255> wild movements10:02
<RussellDaytrade> its settling down, pat, i think, may be good sign for bounce soon.
we keep getting lower /low prices with less selling intensities10:03
<pat255> even ES acting like er
<RussellDaytrade> perhaps, the mentality to get long is not yet develop in most, and that may be good also.10:05
<NihabaAshi>  Shorts ER2 @ 786.70 -> large size 10:06
<RussellDaytrade> gdit, every time i am posting, i miss a sell op. :) (maybe thats actually good and i should type more???)
<NihabaAshi>  Covered all ER2 Short @ 786.60 --> + 0.1 10:08

Shorts ER2 @ 786.70 -> large size 10:09

Covered ER2 Short @ 787.20 --> - 0.5 10:11

Reverse and Enter Long ER2 @ 787.20
<RussellDaytrade>  Exited 1/4 ER2 Long @ 787.4 --> + 2.4 «« paper »»
l 510:12
<jperl> nothing like the cable company deciding to do work on the pole without telling anyone
<eminitrader> lol10:13
<jperl> good thing I wasn't in the middle of a trade
<NihabaAshi>  Exited all ER2 Long @ 787.30 --> + 0.1
Geeesh :(
<ItalianSharp> guess markets are waiting for big ben to speak up10:14
<NihabaAshi> Looks like it.
<RussellDaytrade> in april 1999, had a squirrel chew thru a cable on a transformer, it shorted and blew up, knocked out power to neighborhood, (as well as squirrel)
<eminitrader> nq not coforming this thrust yet
<jperl> smart little buggers aren10:15

aren't they
<pat255> em u take cues from NQ mostly?
<eminitrader> cues yes ...nothing more10:16
<jperl> ER2 sitting on VWAP right now 786.68
<RussellDaytrade> school taxi time, have sells above mkt, 790, 91, in case they trigger while away. (i was in a trade, and luckily the phones still worked, got out immediately, and yes, tehy are quite the little buggers!)10:21
<jperl> it's a good thing they haven't learned how to use tools10:26
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<NihabaAshi>  Long ER2 @ 786.50 -> large size 10:35
<RussellDaytrade> -lol if they did, i'd like to put 'em to work!10:39
<jperl> I've got news for you..., they will be putting you to work10:40
<Chilly>  Long ES @ 1401.25 «« paper »» 10:42
<NihabaAshi>  Exited all ER2 Long @ 787.80 --> + 1.3 10:43
Ooopss...
Exited all ER2 Long @ 786.80 --> + 0.3
<Chilly> little triangle on ES

Exited 1/3 ES Long @ 1402.25 --> + 1 «« paper »» 10:44
<NihabaAshi> [09:54] <NihabaAshi> Shorts ER2 @ 785.40 -> large size10:46
That trade resulted in a -0.8 loss and I didn't have time to post it due to market conditions.
<pat255> np niha ..this er is more wilder thee days10:47

big bars ,,out of no where10:48
  
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<Chilly>  Exited 1/3 ES Long @ 1404.25 --> + 3 «« paper »»
<RussellDaytrade>  Exited 1/4 ER2 Long @ 788.8 --> + 2.5 «« paper »» 10:49
<eminitrader> nice guys
<RussellDaytrade> now long 4
<Chilly> thanks10:50
<eminitrader> nice ebtry there chilly..
<Chilly> couold be failed breakout
<eminitrader> every trade is risk :))10:51

Shorts ES @ 1404
<Chilly> thanks again oh great Master of the entry :)
<eminitrader> he he he10:52

rright @ ny ma's ...looking for a quick one ..

does look like it may push higher...unless it decides to chop10:53

take that back...think all it did was fill the gap10:55
<RussellDaytrade>  Long ER2 @ 787.3 -> Add «« paper »»
<eminitrader> will hold my trade ...
<Chilly> think I'll see if I can hang in there in case we start to get staircase moving up ..10:56
doubtful but diabolical
<eminitrader> never know ...and its a friday :))
<Chilly>  exit stop set ES @ 1401.25 «« paper »»
<eminitrader> i have a 6 tick stop10:57
<NihabaAshi>  Shorts ER2 @ 787.60 -> large size
Covered ER2 Short @ 787.80 --> - 0.2 11:00
Reverse and Enter Long ER2 @ 787.80
<Chilly> indecision on ES ... doesn't look good for this long

Trailing Stop Hit ES @ 1401.25 --> 0 «« paper »» 11:01
<NihabaAshi>  Exited ER2 Long @ 787.00 --> - 0.8 11:02
Reverse and Enter Short ER2 @ 787.00
<eminitrader>  Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1401 --> + 3
<jperl> ER2 VWAP now 786.56
<eminitrader> stop @ 3 ticks for reminder ...will hold11:03

looks like hod on the ES11:04
<Chilly> Jperl .. what time period do you use to calculate your VWAP?
<jperl> time period?? doesn't depend on time11:05
<RussellDaytrade> t = 792.83
<jperl> starts at the open
<RussellDaytrade> although i think thats conservative
<Chilly> on Ensign do you set study parameters to calculate moving avg / formula vol. weight?11:06
<jperl> no....VWAP is not a moving average11:07
<Chilly> oh, ok11:08
<jperl> I think there may be a DYO study for VWAP in Ensign
<Chilly> ah, thanks
<NihabaAshi>  Shorts ER2 @ 787.70 -> Add 11:10
:(
<RussellDaytrade>  Exited 1/4 ER2 Long @ 788.7 --> + 1.4 «« paper »» 11:15

oh yeah.11:16
<NihabaAshi>  Covered all ER2 Short @ 788.90 --> - 3.1 11:17
<pat255> :(11:18
<eminitrader>  Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1404.75 --> - 0.75 11:20
<pat255> em they took the stops out at VPC as per E setup11:22
<eminitrader> prolly
but my charts now cofirm change in trend ...so ita all longs now for me
<pat255> k...thks11:23

looks like ..
<eminitrader>  Long ES @ 1403.25 11:25
<ItalianSharp> bernanke is due to speak at 11pm right? that won't affect the markets until monday

no more news today...:(
<NihabaAshi>  Shorts ER2 @ 788.30 -> large size
:(11:30
* codehead_afk is now known as codehead11:31
<jperl> ER2 VWAP now 786.98
<eminitrader>  Long ES @ 1401.75 -> Add 11:33
<NihabaAshi>  Covered all ER2 Short @ 787.40 --> + 0.9 11:35
<eminitrader>  exit stop set ES @ 1400.25 11:36

be back..
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<NihabaAshi>  Shorts ER2 @ 787.30 -> large size 11:53
<RussellDaytrade>  Long ER2 @ 786.3 -> Add «« paper »» 11:55
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<jperl> Well, I got slapped around good and proper this morning....11:58

http://charts.dacharts.com/2007-03-02/JP ERL_019.png

That's what I get for trading around the VWAP11:59
<RussellDaytrade>  Exited 1/4 ER2 Long @ 787.2 --> + 0.9 «« paper »» 12:00
* DisconnectedSession Close: Fri Mar 02 12:03:37 200712:03
 Session Start: Fri Mar 02 12:10:37 2007Session Ident: #futurestrades
* Now talking in #futurestrades12:10
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<pat255> 785 is the magnet12:11
<RussellDaytrade>  Long ER2 @ 785.7 -> Add «« paper »»
arghh!, is this thing ever going to stop going down?12:12
<NihabaAshi>  Covered 1/2 ER2 Short @ 783.80 --> + 3.5 12:16
<RussellDaytrade>  Exited all ER2 Long @ 785 --> - 2 «« paper »»
<pat255> nice patience there niha ..i gave up..12:17
<RussellDaytrade> tahts about a BE as i have lowered cost basis.12:18
Long ER2 @ 783.5 «« paper »»
<NihabaAshi> Yep...considering I currently have no charts while my backup system (secondary computer on a different ISP) is booting up right now.
<RussellDaytrade>  Long ER2 @ 782.2 -> Add «« paper »» 12:19
<NihabaAshi>  Covered ER2 Short @ 782.00 --> + 5.3 12:20

Holding 4 contracts
<RussellDaytrade>  Long ER2 @ 781.7 -> Add «« paper »» 12:22
Exited 1/3 ER2 Long @ 782.7 --> + 1 «« paper »» 12:23
Long ER2 @ 781.3 -> Add «« paper »» 12:26
Long ER2 @ 780.2 -> Add «« paper »» 12:29
4 at ap 781.812:30
<NihabaAshi>  Covered ER2 Short @ 780.60 --> + 6.7 12:39

Holding 2 contracts
<pat255> wtg niha ..
<RussellDaytrade>  Long ER2 @ 780.2 -> Add «« paper »» 12:40

Long ER2 @ 779.3 -> Add «« paper »» 12:44

Exited 1/3 ER2 Long @ 781 --> + 1.7 «« paper »» 12:46

sold 2 of 6

ap at 781.2 on all 6

Exited 1/3 ER2 Long @ 772 --> - 11.5 «« paper »» 12:53
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<RussellDaytrade> thats up.8 times 2

Exited all ER2 Long @ 782.3 --> - 1.2 «« paper »»

thas up a buck on last 212:55

Long ER2 @ 781.5 «« paper »»
<pdays>  Shorts YM @ 12197 12:57
Covered all YM Short @ 12189 --> + 8
<RussellDaytrade>  Long ER2 @ 780.2 -> Add «« paper »» 13:12

Long ER2 @ 779.1 -> Add «« paper »» 13:27

Long ER2 @ 778 -> Add «« paper »» 13:30
<NihabaAshi>  Covered ER2 Short @ 778.90 --> + 8.4 13:34
Holding 1 contract
<pat255> gl niha a home run...13:39
<RussellDaytrade>  Exited 1/4 ER2 Long @ 780.8 --> + 2.8 «« paper »» 13:50
the way i look at it, that was a sale of the 780.2. i prefer to keep the lower priced ones, and sell the gihgers, although i am trying to hold some incase this bottom holds.13:51
cost basis on the at group is 4 at ap 779.713:52
<codehead> long YM 12146 <paper>14:02
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<NihabaAshi> ER2 volatility dropping fast...I'm expecting a volatility spike here soon.14:06
<RussellDaytrade>  Long ER2 @ 778 -> Add «« paper »»
<codehead> oil popping14:07

ym close to trigger for vegas countertrend pattern14:11

on 5 min chart

having trouble tho14:12

ES potential vegas adn inverted ghost14:13

exit half YM +13 <paper>14:39

first target heat finally, after mucho heat14:40
<RussellDaytrade>  Exited 1/4 ER2 Long @ 780.3 --> + 2.3 «« paper »»
<codehead> it got within a tick of my wide stop too :-P
<RussellDaytrade> sold an 780.2, now long 3
Exited 1/4 ER2 Long @ 781 --> - 0.5 «« paper »»
<codehead> stop raised to 12159 YM <paper>
<RussellDaytrade> kinda hate to give those up14:41
<codehead> stop raised to 69

exit YM +30 <paper>14:42

remainder
<RussellDaytrade>  Long ER2 @ 780.1 -> Add «« paper »» 14:46
<NihabaAshi> I'm a little surprise at some of the buying after 2:30 pm est because I would think after a week of trading this hugh volatility spike these past several trading days...15:04

Traders would be too tired and just sell off what they had :)

Especially going into the close.

Will be an interesting last hour of trading.15:05
<pat255> S covering i suppose before the weekend
<RussellDaytrade> perhaps, traders that have sold short all week wanna not take some in, and call it a job well done.

now
<NihabaAshi> Yep...I didn't think about that scenario.15:06
Some short covering to bank the profits before the weekend.15:07
<RussellDaytrade> i have to admit, i am a little tired, traded a lot today.
<pat255> yes RD u were oding some goo d trades15:08
<RussellDaytrade> as usual had to take soem gas before closing most at some prfits, although i let my best pfofits yet eveaporate yesterday, in trying to hold for higher prices above 797 yesterday.15:09

hard to believe there's still another hour left on the day15:11

selling another on a break above previous peak...selling to close a long.15:13

Exited 1/4 ER2 Long @ 781.5 --> + 1.4 «« paper »» 15:14
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<RussellDaytrade> only 2 left

wanted to hold long o/w, think that gap up open is overdue, buty as i said, i'm kinda tired this pm.15:16

83 and 84 may perk me up a bit.
<NihabaAshi>  Covered Remainder ER2 Short @ 781.20 --> + 6.1 15:18
<codehead> nice15:21
<ItalianSharp> didn't know you still were short niha...well done in this trade...;)
<NihabaAshi>  Long ER2 @ 781.20 -> small size 15:22

ER2 volatility has dropped...I'm expecting a volatility spike here soon.15:29

Exited ER2 Long @ 780.90 --> - 0.3 15:32

Reverse and Enter Short ER2 @ 780.90

781.00 support didn't hold.

Volatility decling again...expecting another volatility spike.15:40
<pat255> c u all later gn & ty15:41
<NihabaAshi>  Covered 1/3 ER2 Short @ 779.50 --> + 1.4 15:42

Covered 1/3 ER2 Short @ 778.80 --> + 2.1 15:44
  
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<RussellDaytrade> i do not feel like buying another round today. 2 long15:45
it's a 'tail-between-the-legs' type of close.15:53
seen instances when this marked a turn, of sorts15:54
<NihabaAshi>  Covered Remainder ER2 Short @ 776.70 --> + 4.2 15:56
<ItalianSharp> guess the profit taking for the bears lasted for an hour or so...greedy bastids...15:57
<NihabaAshi> Their dumping now...this is what I was looking for to occur in the last hour of trading and the reason why I quickly cut loose that Long position.15:58
<ItalianSharp> bad week for markets...blood all over15:59
bernanke is due to speak in 1 hour...perhaps it's an anticipation of some bad news he's going to come out with
<NihabaAshi> More blood in the street.16:13
<ItalianSharp> indices are gonna close at the lows...very bearish16:14
they have 20secs to rally
<werner> gn all16:19
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<NihabaAshi> I just finished my market wrap trading notes.17:20

It was a week we shouldn't forget and hopefully it continues with the volatility.17:21

Take care all and have a nice weekend.
* NihabaAshi is now known as NihabaAshi_away
* DisconnectedSession Close: Fri Mar 02 17:32:53 200717:32
  

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