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<drt> | gm all | 09:31 |
<pw998> | gm | 09:32 |
<ripsboy> | gm traders... | 09:35 |
<szubaark> | Buys ES @ 1372.25 «« paper »» |
<Spartan> | Shorts ER2 @ 710.1 «« paper »» | 09:37 |
| Covered all ER2 Short @ 711.1 --> - 1 «« paper »» | 09:40 |
<szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 1369.50 --> - 2.75 «« paper »» | 09:45 |
| Shorts ES @ 1369.50 «« paper »» |
<Spartan> | Shorts ER2 @ 708.1 «« paper »» |
| Covered all ER2 Short @ 709.1 --> - 1 «« paper »» | 09:51 |
<szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1371 --> - 1.5 «« paper »» |
| Buys ES @ 1371 «« paper »» |
<Spartan> | Shorts ER2 @ 710.1 «« paper »» | 09:55 |
<szubaark> | exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1371 «« paper »» | 10:00 |
| Pinball action | 10:01 |
<ItalianSharp> | bernie is speaking...bush due up at 10.05am |
| chop chop chop |
<werner> | :( | 10:02 |
<szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 1372.75 --> + 1.75 «« paper »» | 10:04 |
<pw998> | what's bush going to talk about? | 10:06 |
<ItalianSharp> | bush speaking now |
| probably talking about the monkeys and how similar they look to its face...:) |
<szubaark> | lol | 10:07 |
<pw998> | funny |
<megus> | damn, missed the opening |
<werner> | lol |
<megus> | hey all | 10:08 |
<szubaark> | Buys ES @ 1371.25 «« paper »» | 10:10 |
| exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1371.25 «« paper »» | 10:12 |
| Exited all Long ES at 1371.25 --> 0 «« paper »» | 10:15 |
| Buys ES @ 1373 «« paper »» | 10:18 |
<NihabaAshi> | Bernanke speaking now ??? | 10:19 |
<megus> | didn't he do that yesterday? |
<NihabaAshi> | If so...he's put a voodoo spell on the futures :) |
<pat255> | lol | 10:20 |
<NihabaAshi> | Ahhh...I know what's going on... |
| President Bush is on TV and the financial networks is covering his speech :( |
<tmk> | megus, -- he addressed "the house" yesterday ... today, he's chatting with the Senate. |
<ItalianSharp> | bernie & bush are a really bad combo | 10:21 |
<pat255> | y | 10:22 |
<megus> | "chatting" |
| better off chatting about the weather than the financials |
<szubaark> | they should be on AFTER markets close, its tough enough dealing with market without them | 10:23 |
<megus> | he's causing havoc |
<Tim_a1> | really, it should be to an advantage, you know where the hcop will be concentrated, that's half the game, avoiding it | 10:24 |
<NihabaAshi> | reason why I'm not in a trade right now until Bush is off TV |
<ItalianSharp> | szu, i think they are on now BECAUSE markets are open | 10:25 |
<Tim_a1> | chop, not hcop |
<ItalianSharp> | the big boys dont wanna work long hrs |
<megus> | only a 4 point span on ES |
<ItalianSharp> | so they prefer to have speeches during the 6hr working day...:) |
| of bush, bernie, etc...were to speak at 5pm...big boys would have to sit in the office for another hour or two... | 10:26 |
<szubaark> | Volatility spike to upside | 10:27 |
<Spartan> | Covered Remainder ER2 Short @ 712.1 --> - 2 «« paper »» |
<megus> | any reason for the upside ? |
| i have no idea what's going on with the speech | 10:28 |
<NihabaAshi> | I'll be back when Bush is off TV |
* NihabaAshi | is now known as NihabaAshi_away |
<szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 1373 --> 0 «« paper »» | 10:33 |
<robert> | Anyone have any suggestions for the XP taskbar clock to display seconds? | 10:41 |
<megus> | no way of doing that | 10:43 |
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<robert> | yeah, maybe there's an add-on or something.. |
<megus> | perhaps |
| let me look up |
| i found an atomic clock :) | 10:44 |
<robert> | hmm.. someone in the room mentioned that once | 10:45 |
| thnx | 10:46 |
<megus> | np |
| maybe i'll program it someday | 10:47 |
<robert> | ;-) | 10:48 |
<megus> | Long ES @ 1374 | 10:49 |
| just for the heck of it :) |
| aiming at 76.5 |
<szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1373 «« paper »» | 10:50 |
| typical Bush reaction from market | 11:04 |
| exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1373 «« paper »» |
| expecting volatility spike soon, hopefully to downside, im Short | 11:18 |
* NihabaAshi_away | is now known as NihabaAshi | 11:20 |
<X> | #FuturesTrades Info -> I am only trading the first few hours of each trading day for the remainder of the week due to tax preparations. | 11:27 |
<szubaark> | exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1368 «« paper »» |
<megus> | szu, what signals you the spike? |
| that rise in volume? | 11:28 |
<szubaark> | i dont look at Volume.. it was a lot of things, Bush, Euro,Gap, retrace off Overnight | 11:29 |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 704.90 -> small size |
| intuition trade |
| Exited ER2 Long @ 704.10 --> - 0.8 | 11:30 |
| Reverse and Enter Short ER2 @ 704.10 |
<szubaark> | looked like for a while market for ready to retrace that last Volatility spike |
| nice reversal Niha :) |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered ER2 Short @ 703.60 --> + 0.5 | 11:32 |
<megus> | usually when i reverse, i lose on both occasions :) | 11:33 |
| missing out the first trade's whole movement |
<pw998> | same here |
<megus> | unless it's really a scalp |
<NihabaAshi> | szu...Gold and Oil helped on that one by giving me heads up was about to happen. | 11:34 |
<megus> | nihaba, which indices do you keep on watch? |
<NihabaAshi> | All the major indices |
<megus> | AMEX oil & gas? | 11:35 |
<NihabaAshi> | Yes |
<megus> | i'd have to take time to experience it, i guess | 11:36 |
| otherwise, it'd just work against me |
<pat255> | invese relation N? |
<NihabaAshi> | none that i know about |
<pat255> | k ...just check |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 702.80 -> small size | 11:38 |
| intuition trade |
<szubaark> | Niha u still watch Euro for your Volatility Analysis with ER2? |
| Covered all Short ES at 1365.25 --> + 7.75 «« paper »» | 11:39 |
| Buys ES @ 1365.50 «« paper »» | 11:51 |
<megus> | nice move on the es, szu |
<szubaark> | thanks |
<Kn-Es> | lgn 65 | 11:54 |
| s/l 63.50 |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited 1/2 ER2 Long @ 704.10 --> + 1.3 | 11:55 |
<szubaark> | exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1365.50 «« paper »» |
<NihabaAshi> | szu...I use EuroFX only when to confirm contracting volatility if I'm not sure that it is contracting. | 11:57 |
* codehead_afk | is now known as codehead |
<NihabaAshi> | Thus, if I'm sure its contracting in ER2...I don't bother looking at EuroFX |
<Kn-Es> | out 3/4 67.50 + 2.50 |
<NihabaAshi> | Usually (9 out of 10) I know if its contracting or not |
<pat255> | N just confirm ...if oil/gold up u are bullish on futs? | 11:58 |
<NihabaAshi> | Bullish and Bearish ONLY if I'm already in a trade...not before. | 11:59 |
<pat255> | i c...ty |
<Kn-Es> | cons vol es 6 min |
| out 2 67.00 .......... + 2.00 | 12:00 |
<NihabaAshi> | pat255...right now both Oil and Gold are retracing a little... |
| I'm now looking at a possible exit of my remaining Long contract | 12:01 |
<pat255> | y N |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited Remainder ER2 Long @ 703.90 --> + 1.1 |
| In contrast, my trailing stop was @ 702.90 | 12:02 |
<pat255> | c what u mean .. |
<NihabaAshi> | I also exited to protect profits but exited within "contracting volatility"... |
| That allows me an opportunity to re-enter another Long position not too far away from the current price action because contracting volatility is a big ALERT I may soon get another trade signal. | 12:03 |
| Thus, right now is not the time for me to go to the toilet |
| :) | 12:04 |
<szubaark> | :) |
<pat255> | thks N |
<Kn-Es> | out 1 66.00 .......... + 1.50 | 12:07 |
| 66.50 |
| out 1 66.00 .......... + 1.00 | 12:08 |
<szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 1365.50 --> 0 «« paper »» |
<Kn-Es> | rev 66 | 12:09 |
| s.l 68 |
| out 3/4 64.50 + 1.50 | 12:11 |
| out 2 65 + 1.00 | 12:13 |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 703.50 -> small size | 12:14 |
| 1 only |
| DAX trying hard to roll over again | 12:15 |
| downward |
| Exited ER2 Long @ 704.30 --> + 0.8 | 12:17 |
| I'm done trading for the day...not much profits but it is profitable. | 12:18 |
<pw998> | have fun doing your taxes! :) | 12:19 |
<megus> | nice consolidation, would've bought at support line | 12:25 |
<rickf_> | test | 12:28 |
<Kn-Es> | srt 68 | 12:31 |
<Tim_a1> | backtested the 2/13-2/22 zig zag | 12:32 |
<Kn-Es> | sl 70 | 12:33 |
<codehead> | YM low was 9 ticks away from .382 retracement of the 601 point move up | 12:45 |
| Ym consolidated in this area on the way up too | 12:46 |
<megus> | Long ES @ 1369 -> small size | 12:48 |
| Exited all ES Long @ 1368 --> - 1 | 12:53 |
| :) |
| paper, of course |
<robert> | Shorts ES @ 68.75 |
| Covered all ES Short @ 67.50 --> + 1.25 |
<Kn-Es> | nice trade robert |
<robert> | thnx | 12:54 |
<szubaark> | yup, nice scalp | 12:57 |
* NihabaAshi | is now known as NihabaAshi_away | 12:59 |
<Kn-Es> | out 7/8 66 + 2.00 | 13:01 |
| out 2 67.00 + 1.00 | 13:07 |
| add 69.50 | 13:09 |
| rev 70 | 13:10 |
| out 7/8 71 + 1.00 |
| rev 70 |
| out 7/8 69 + 1.00 |
| s.l 71 | 13:11 |
| out 70 | 13:12 |
| all |
| 0.00 |
| srt 70 |
| 2 con |
| s.l 71 | 13:13 |
| tp1 ---> 68 | 13:16 |
| tp2 ---> 67 |
<Andy> | Shorts ER2 @ 707.6 «« paper »» | 13:17 |
| Covered 1/2 ER2 Short @ 706.4 --> + 1.2 «« paper »» | 13:19 |
<Kn-Es> | out 1 68.00 +2.00 | 13:20 |
<Pepe> | nice Andy | 13:21 |
<Kn-Es> | s/l 70 |
<rickf_> | vn |
<Kn-Es> | 0.00 |
<Andy> | thanks guys |
<Kn-Es> | nice trade Andy | 13:22 |
<Andy> | thanks KN! |
| Covered Remainder ER2 Short @ 707.4 --> + 0.2 «« paper »» | 13:26 |
| Shorts ER2 @ 706.9 «« paper »» | 13:27 |
| Covered 2/3 ER2 Short @ 705.7 --> + 1.2 «« paper »» | 13:29 |
<Pepe> | very nice Andy |
<Andy> | muchos gracias, Pepe :) | 13:30 |
<Kn-Es> | out 1 66.00 + 4.00 |
| rev |
| out 7/8 67 + 1.00 |
| s/l 64 | 13:31 |
<X> | #FuturesTrades Info -> I am only trading the first few hours of each trading day for the remainder of the week due to tax preparations. | 13:33 |
<Kn-Es> | out 1 67.50 + 1.50 |
| s.l 65 | 13:35 |
<pw998> | quitting for the day, good luck! | 13:40 |
<Kn-Es> | lng 65.00 | 13:41 |
| s.l 64 |
| out 7/8 66.50 + 1.50 | 13:42 |
<Andy> | Covered Remainder ER2 Short @ 705.2 --> + 1.7 «« paper »» | 13:43 |
<Kn-Es> | out 1 67 + 2.00 |
| sl. 65 | 13:44 |
| 0.00 |
| out 1 68 + 3.00 | 13:47 |
| tp1 69 tp2 70 |
| out 1 69 + 4.00 | 13:59 |
| add 67 | 14:01 |
| 2 con |
| out 1 67.00 68.00 +1.00 |
| out last 67.00 68.00 +1.00 | 14:02 |
| add 66.50 |
| 2 con |
| out all 66.50 67.50 +1.00 | 14:03 |
| add 1 68 | 14:04 |
| add 1 67.50 | 14:11 |
| out 67.50 69 +1.50 | 14:12 |
| out 1 68.00 69.00 + 1.00 | 14:13 |
| add 1 68 |
| out 1 65.00 70.00 + 5.00 | 14:16 |
| out 1 68.00 69.50 + 1.50 |
| out all |
| lng 69.50 | 14:17 |
| 2 con |
| bad call |
| out 1 71.50 + 2.00 | 14:19 |
| some how saved |
| tp 73.75 | 14:21 |
| sl 67.50 |
| out 1 69.50 73.75 + 4.25 | 14:24 |
| srt 73.25 |
| out 7/8 72.25 + 1.00 |
| sl 24.25 | 14:25 |
| 74.25 |
| tp 1 71.25 |
| tp 2 70.25 |
| tp 3 69.25 | 14:26 |
| sl 74.75 | 14:29 |
| out 1 72.25 1.00 | 14:30 |
<szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1371.25 «« paper »» | 14:42 |
| Covered all Short ES at 1372 --> - 0.75 «« paper »» | 14:43 |
| Buys ES @ 1371.75 «« paper »» | 14:44 |
<Kn-Es> | srt 74.25 | 14:47 |
| out 7/8 73.25 + 1.00 | 14:48 |
| s.l 75.75 |
<codehead> | YM above has potential retest of 12648 hod and 12652 .500 retrace | 14:49 |
| and the gap, of course |
<szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 1372.50 --> + 0.75 «« paper »» |
<Kn-Es> | out 2 72.25 + 2.00 | 14:50 |
<szubaark> | dont like this action, No Followthru | 14:52 |
| and i dont like to scalp for ticks | 14:53 |
<rickf_> | weird tight range most of the day |
<Kn-Es> | well, change ur trading as the market changes, thats my thinking | 14:54 |
| we dont have another choice |
<silo> | actually today is a good indication of the market coming back around | 14:56 |
| speaking from a swing trader's poit of view |
<Tim_a1> | standing aside is another option - 1/2 the battle is knowing what you can do, and when you can do it | 14:57 |
<silo> | yeah. cash is king | 14:58 |
| :P |
<Kn-Es> | :) |
<silo> | and kn-es is the queen |
<Kn-Es> | nop | 14:59 |
<silo> | :P |
<Tim_a1> | 64 and 70 (ES) were 2 imprtant levels, and they held |
| i'm not as nible as kn-es, i'd like to be, but i'm not there yet | 15:00 |
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<Kn-Es> | come on |
| i was late, so pushing my luck | 15:01 |
| and of course bored sitting here |
| out 1 71.25 + 3.00 | 15:05 |
| tp 69.25 | 15:06 |
| sl 74.25 |
| 0.00 | 15:07 |
| add 71 | 15:09 |
| 2 con |
| not going anywhere | 15:15 |
| sl 73.25 + 1.00 | 15:16 |
| sl 71.00 69.00 + 2.00 | 15:17 |
| out both 71s |
| tp 67+- | 15:18 |
| sl 74.25 67.00 + 7.25 | 15:28 |
| sng 67.25 |
| 1 con |
| lng |
| sl 66 | 15:30 |
| out 68.25 + 1.00 | 15:31 |
| limit srt 2 con 69 |
| sl 70 tp 66 | 15:32 |
| it hit |
| s |
| if it hits |
| cancelled | 15:35 |
| lng 2 con 66.50 |
| s.l 63.50 |
| out 1 67.50 +1.00 | 15:38 |
<X> | #FuturesTrades Info -> I am only trading the first few hours of each trading day for the remainder of the week due to tax preparations. | 15:39 |
<Kn-Es> | tp 69 +- |
| out 1 70 +2.50 | 15:41 |
<werner> | wow kn |
| vn |
<Kn-Es> | thanks |
| srt 69.50 |
| 2 con |
| s/l 71.50 |
| if loose, it will be last trade | 15:42 |
| :( |
| the last trade. | 15:43 |
| out 1 68.50 +1.00 | 15:44 |
| tp 67+- | 15:45 |
| we may see a 10+ pts long move from 66 | 15:49 |
<werner> | amazing to see you trade :) | 15:54 |
<Kn-Es> | out last 69.50 67.00 ........ + 2.50 |
| lng |
| 67 |
| out 7/8 68.00 .............. + 1.00 | 15:55 |
| sl 67 |
| no space |
| thanks werner |
| tp 1 70+- tp2 ... | 15:56 |
| sl 65.25 |
| we may hit 66 |
| out 1 69.00 + 2.00 | 16:01 |
| shuold have a long here 66.25 | 16:08 |
<Tim_a1> | congrats to anyone who made money today, you really had to snatch it off the counter quick | 16:09 |
<Kn-Es> | i m hit 66.25 and out |
| calling it a day, take care all, good trading, see u all tomorrow | 16:10 |
<Brutus> | gn all | 16:44 |
<werner> | gn all | 17:37 |
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