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| Session Start: Fri Jan 18 09:25:25 2008Session Ident: #futurestrades |
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<X> | [NihabaAshi] #FuturesTrades info @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTradesChatRoom.htm and trade log archives @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/RecentTrades.htm |
<rickf> | wow the es is looking real weak this last 30 mins or so |
* rickf | figured we'd see a bunch of short covering early | 09:26 |
<ripsboy> | gm folks... | 09:27 |
<rickf> | gm |
<Nesi> | wow | 09:28 |
<rickf> | any news? |
| none that i can tell |
* hum_g | is now known as nqcruiser |
<PapaJon> | gm all | 09:29 |
<lumenPharmer> | after daily range break we made the full moves, er to 680, and nq to 1850 | 09:30 |
<nqcruiser> | any looking at nq here |
<lumenPharmer> | now the fight is on, i hope ;) |
<drt> | gm everyone | 09:31 |
<NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 684.30 -> small size | 09:33 |
| intuition trade |
<szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1344.25 «« paper »» |
<NihabaAshi> | Should have been made a point higher :( |
<werner> | gm all | 09:34 |
<rickf> | hey werner |
<NihabaAshi> | Doesn't look like I'll survive this pin ball machine price action with the poor entry | 09:35 |
<werner> | hi rickf |
<Brutus> | anybody got YM updating in esignal on old package? |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered ER2 Short @ 685.50 --> - 1.2 |
| Reverse and Enter Long ER2 @ 685.50 |
| Exited ER2 Long @ 687.10 --> + 1.6 | 09:40 |
| Be back later | 09:41 |
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* NihabaAshi | is now known as NihabaAshi_away |
<Brutus> | 1000/1500 Dec Conference Board Leading Econ Indicators | 09:48 |
| Leading Index -0.4% |
| 1000/1500 Dec Reuters/University of Michigan Survey, prelim |
| Sentiment Index End month 75.5 |
| Sentiment Index Mid Month 74.5 |
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<startrader> | Long ES @ 1341.50 | 09:56 |
| Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 1347 --> + 5.5 | 10:00 |
<rickf> | nice call st |
<szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1347.25 --> - 3 «« paper »» |
<startrader> | Exited Remainder ES Long @ 1346 --> + 4.5 | 10:01 |
<rickf> | was experimenting with fibs and had "mentally" put a buy in at 42 |
<szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1340.75 «« paper »» | 10:02 |
<startrader> | still have support here but want to let the news soak in. | 10:03 |
<szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1347 --> - 6.25 «« paper »» | 10:08 |
| Buys ES @ 1347 «« paper »» |
<startrader> | Shorts ES @ 1347.50 |
| Covered all ES Short @ 1349 --> - 1.5 | 10:11 |
<eminitrader> | Shorts ES @ 1355 | 10:13 |
| Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1352 --> + 3 | 10:16 |
<rickf> | excellent -- as before i had a "mental sell" at 54 based on fib and what rsi was telling me | 10:17 |
<startrader> | nice catch em. Got kids home today and distractin, going bowling. Taking their piggybanks for wagers. |
<rickf> | wouldve een a good trade |
<eminitrader> | Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1350 --> + 5 |
| thx s...see u ahd a couple of good ones today :)) | 10:18 |
| have fun |
<startrader> | Also yestdays 12:15 est 15 min ivb holding the market. Participant cue. | 10:19 |
<eminitrader> | yes r ...55 price range was an nice short entry...i think this is the high of the day...unless it acts differently given options expiry |
<rickf> | em - yep....had it confirmed a few different ways, which made it pretty convincing | 10:21 |
* sb | thanks the dax |
<eminitrader> | Q is r un in for the ride :)) |
<rickf> | plus finally starting to explore fib retracements now | 10:22 |
<eminitrader> | exit stop lowered ES @ 1355.50 |
| exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1355 | 10:27 |
| dont like this pa |
| likely bounce from here.. | 10:30 |
| hope my stop hlds |
<rickf> | i'd exit at 49 | 10:32 |
| (were i in that is - takle profit) |
| es is just hanging around |
<eminitrader> | hold just 3 r ...lets see if we get new lows |
<rickf> | oh onono....I would exit at 49 if I was in. You know what you're doing :) | 10:33 |
<eminitrader> | know what u mean :) |
<rickf> | lol |
<eminitrader> | just comments ..trying to kill time |
<szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 1347 --> 0 «« paper »» | 10:36 |
<eminitrader> | Covered ES Short @ 1445 --> - 90 | 10:39 |
| oops |
<rickf> | heh |
<eminitrader> | Covered ES Short @ 1345 --> + 10 |
| hld 1 |
<rickf> | nice run |
<Brutus> | wtg emt |
<eminitrader> | thx r B | 10:40 |
<szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1344 «« paper »» |
<eminitrader> | that week bounce of supp @ 49...actually made patient :) | 10:41 |
| that kinda indicated a loss of buying power | 10:42 |
<rickf> | braver man than me -- i'd have been happy with the 5 points taken from entry; i agreed w/you the pa was kinda goofy for a while, which is why i would've exited |
<szubaark> | Possible test of yersturday low@1335 |
<eminitrader> | gien that its options expiry ..made it even worse to read | 10:43 |
<rickf> | true |
<eminitrader> | i think we brek that too szu |
| expection 20-30 on the ES |
| mean 1320-1330 |
| key is if support will hld @ 1327 ..if that breks next level of major suoo 1316...expecting the mrkt to test that level... | 10:45 |
| and then set-up a pullbeck next week...around 70-100 pionts |
| 1327-1316 + SP not ES |
| now i may very well be wrong and mrkt may bounce off from here... | 10:47 |
| but i have painted a high probability scenario given my read of the charts.. | 10:48 |
<szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1345 --> - 1 «« paper »» |
| Buys ES @ 1345 «« paper »» |
<TraderO> | Shorts ER2 @ 682.8 | 10:49 |
<rickf> | back in a while | 10:50 |
<TraderO> | Covered 1/2 ER2 Short @ 681.8 --> + 1 | 10:52 |
<szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 1342 --> - 3 «« paper »» | 10:53 |
| Shorts ES @ 1342 «« paper »» |
<TraderO> | Covered Remainder ER2 Short @ 680.8 --> + 2 | 10:55 |
<Nesi> | full day today?? | 11:00 |
<eminitrader> | globex yes |
<Nesi> | thx |
<jperl> | crappy morning....trades here.... | 11:06 |
| http://charts.dacharts.com/2008-01-18/JP ERL_013.jpg |
<Nesi> | nice to see u again jperl :) |
<jperl> | I've been away for about a month in the sunny South |
<Nesi> | FL ? | 11:07 |
<jperl> | yes |
<Nesi> | i am in Sunny Isles :) |
<silo> | jperl !!! long time no see |
<jperl> | also southern Carribbean |
| feel kind of rusty being away so long | 11:08 |
<eminitrader> | Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1331 --> + 24 | 11:18 |
| tahts a supp ort on SP @ 1327 as i mentioned earlier |
<szubaark> | very nice. u hitting some big #'s lately |
<Brutus> | yep good one |
<eminitrader> | thx szu.. |
<szubaark> | SP March contract or Continuous? | 11:19 |
<eminitrader> | so be careaful selling in this area guys...if this breks its 1317 on the SP or if this holds expect a major bounce to the upside |
<szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1334 --> + 8 «« paper »» | 11:20 |
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<Brutus> | nice one szu |
<eminitrader> | continuous szu.. |
| and nice short by the wauy :) | 11:21 |
| have a good wkend all | 11:23 |
<szubaark> | thanks.. having tough time reading this today | 11:27 |
<Nesi> | Bush about to go on | 11:31 |
| Bush ON | 11:32 |
* codehead_afk | is now known as codehead | 11:37 |
<Brutus> | 01/18/2008 11:34 *DJ Bush: Stimulus Package Should Be Around 1% Of GDP | 11:38 |
<Guest35179> | Shorts ER2 @ 669.1 | 11:56 |
| Covered all ER2 Short @ 667.9 --> + 1.2 | 11:57 |
| Long ER2 @ 673.2 | 12:04 |
| Exited all ER2 Long @ 672.4 --> - 0.8 | 12:06 |
<werner> | . | 12:20 |
<pdays> | Shorts ER2 @ 672.1. | 12:22 |
| Covered all ER2 Short @ 671.8 --> + 672.1. - 671.8 | 12:23 |
| Shorts ER2 @ 672.1 | 12:24 |
| Shorts ER2 @ 672.1 |
| Covered all ER2 Short @ 671.8 --> + 0.3 | 12:25 |
| thats better |
<Nesi> | feels to me trend now is up | 12:28 |
<szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1328.25 «« paper »» | 12:52 |
<Nesi> | Long ER2 @ 676.50 «« paper »» | 12:55 |
<pdays> | Long ES @ 1329 | 12:56 |
<TraderO> | Shorts ER2 @ 675.7 | 12:57 |
| Covered 1/2 ER2 Short @ 675.2 --> + 0.5 | 13:00 |
| Covered Remainder ER2 Short @ 676.7 --> - 1 | 13:02 |
<pdays> | Exited all ES Long @ 1331.5 --> + 2.5 | 13:04 |
<Guest35179> | Long ER2 @ 678.5 | 13:05 |
| Exited all ER2 Long @ 679.6 --> + 1.1 | 13:06 |
| Shorts ER2 @ 679.3 | 13:07 |
| Covered all ER2 Short @ 678.6 --> + 0.7 | 13:08 |
<Nesi> | crazy :) | 13:15 |
<szubaark> | looking for low test on es |
<X> | #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders and intermarket analysis of Emini Futures (EMD, ER2, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex Derivatives (DAX, ESTX50), Euronext Futures (FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM) and Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) | 13:23 |
<startrader> | Long ES @ 1325.75 | 13:32 |
<szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1328.25 --> 0 «« paper »» |
<startrader> | Exited 3/4 ES Long @ 1328 --> + 2.25 | 13:33 |
<szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1327.25 «« paper »» |
<startrader> | Long ES @ 1324.25 -> Add | 13:38 |
| Exited all ES Long @ 1323.50 --> - 3 | 13:39 |
<szubaark> | typical option exp crap type of day |
| this will be my last trade, cant watch this anymore | 13:42 |
| exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1327.25 «« paper »» | 13:44 |
| Covered all Short ES at 1327.25 --> 0 «« paper »» | 13:46 |
* sep34 | is now known as sep34_away | 14:02 |
<startrader> | Long ES @ 1424.75 | 14:06 |
| Exited 3/4 ES Long @ 1327 --> - 97.75 | 14:09 |
<rickf> | back....missed all the fun it seems. :( | 14:10 |
<startrader> | Exited Remainder ES Long @ 1330.25 --> - 94.5 | 14:16 |
| Long ES @ 1323.50 | 14:26 |
| Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 1326 --> + 2.5 | 14:27 |
| Exited Remainder ES Long @ 1324.50 --> + 1 | 14:29 |
<szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1324.50 «« paper »» | 14:31 |
| exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1324.50 «« paper »» |
<startrader> | Long ES @ 1321.75 | 14:32 |
| Exited all ES Long @ 1320 --> - 1.75 | 14:33 |
| Long ES @ 1319.50 | 14:34 |
<szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1321 --> + 3.5 «« paper »» |
<startrader> | Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 1322 --> + 2.5 | 14:36 |
| Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 1323.25 --> + 3.75 | 14:38 |
<szubaark> | nice star | 14:39 |
<startrader> | Exited Remainder ES Long @ 1324 --> + 4.5 |
| ty, jumped in too quick on the first trade, those last 2 60 min bodies will control the action for awhile. | 14:40 |
<rickf> | geez i have had some great entries on 'mental trades' today.... | 15:20 |
| amazing what you can glean by watching the action | 15:21 |
<startrader> | Best to do is watch aciton and volume on large timeframes with no indicators.. | 15:26 |
<rickf> | only thing i've been dabbling w/today are fib lines |
| want to see how some other indicators pan out, but i'll do that over the weekend | 15:27 |
| compare/contrast everything |
<startrader> | keeep fibs very simple, spent over 10 years realizing that. Stick to one retrace level at a time. | 15:29 |
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<rickf> | good point - tho i found it helpful to see all 5 lines and how the price moved around 'em....kind of enlightening, really. | 15:30 |
<startrader> | Stick to daily highs and lows during regular trading hour, I like to to stick to cash hours 9:30-4:00. |
<rickf> | i started with the overnight high/low for the morning, then redrew it (i think) twice today after some of the BIG moves | 15:32 |
| will try that approach too |
| k guys i'm out for the day -- long weekend beckons :) | 15:38 |
<startrader> | Look at todays h to l. 38% has been holding all afternoon. |
<rickf> | star: yep it is |
<startrader> | One last think rick, get a good book on phi. |
<rickf> | phi? | 15:39 |
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<startrader> | You will understand the orgins of fibs from a mathematical perspective. |
<rickf> | i presume it's not options greeks you refer to here |
| ah yes, ok |
<startrader> | I like the Golden Ratio by Mario Livino. |
<rickf> | will add to my to-read list......thx for the info | 15:40 |
| take care all, have a good weekend |
<startrader> | Have a good long weekend see all Tuesday. | 15:41 |
| Shorts ES @ 1327.75 | 15:45 |
<Brutus> | ============ U.S. MARKETS ACTION =========== | 16:10 |
| DJIA down 62.75 points to 12096.46 |
| NASDAQ down 7.22 points to 2339.68 |
| S&P 500 down 8.22 points to 1325.03 |
| 10-year T-note down 3/32 at 105 00/32 yield 3.637 |
| NYMEX Spot Crude up $0.44 at $ 90.57/bbl at close |
| Dollar/Euro down 0.0019 at 1.4623 |
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* codehead | is now known as codehead_afk | 16:28 |
<werner> | gn all | 16:56 |
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* DisconnectedSession | Close: Fri Jan 18 23:57:06 2008 | 23:57 |
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